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Jose probably won't see Christmas while Pogba will leave next summer. We expected Jose's 3rd season to fall apart as usual but this might be the almighty one. Possibly even worse than 3rd season at Chelsea 2nd spell.

Pogba's gone in January. It MAY go to the Summer. Barca's gonna spend the cash on him. Dembele and Umtiti are going to be vital in bringing him over. Not that I'd agree with it, but I can see them offloading Rakitic for him too.
 

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Pogba's gone in January. It MAY go to the Summer. Barca's gonna spend the cash on him. Dembele and Umtiti are going to be vital in bringing him over. Not that I'd agree with it, but I can see them offloading Rakitic for him too.

100% expect him gone. Minus United winning the Europa Pogba at United has been a disaster. I guess the same could be said about Jose as well.

Pogba with actual talent around him to create could be a scary thing. Similar to him at Juve or this summer for France.
 

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100% expect him gone. Minus United winning the Europa Pogba at United has been a disaster. I guess the same could be said about Jose as well.

Pogba with actual talent around him to create could be a scary thing. Similar to him at Juve or this summer for France.

It's all good saying that, but he also been protected in those teams as well. And United does have actual talent, so that's being a bit disingenuous tbh

At Juve he didn't have to do the main playmaking, that was Pirlo's job, he didn't have to do the running that was Marchisio job. Also he has the left wing back to help cover for him, which he doesn't have at United.

With France, he has both Kante and Matuidi to do the running and destroying for him and let's keep 100%, France weren't some free flowing side barring the Final. So Pogba being this magical playmaker is a myth tbh.

And both Pogba and Mourinho are to blame for this shyt storm, just at varying degrees of blame, with Mourinho taking the large portion of it.
 

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It's all good saying that, but he also been protected in those teams as well. And United does have actual talent, so that's being a bit disingenuous tbh

At Juve he didn't have to do the main playmaking, that was Pirlo's job, he didn't have to do the running that was Marchisio job. Also he has the left wing back to help cover for him, which he doesn't have at United.

With France, he has both Kante and Matuidi to do the running and destroying for him and let's keep 100%, France weren't some free flowing side barring the Final. So Pogba being this magical playmaker is a myth tbh.

And both Pogba and Mourinho are to blame for this shyt storm, just at varying degrees of blame, with Mourinho taking the large portion of it.
Sorry but outside of DDG, united do not have elite talent around Pogba. Awful fullbacks and lets not talk about centrebacks. Ok midfield and broken & misaligned attack. Jose still takes 90% of the blame for me.
 

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Sorry but outside of DDG, united do not have elite talent around Pogba. Awful fullbacks and lets not talk about centrebacks. Ok midfield and broken & misaligned attack. Jose still takes 90% of the blame for me.

Where did I say elite talent? I said they have talent, breh is making out Pogba is playing with a bunch of relegation fodder and that are holding him back. You cannot tell me that Mata, Lukaku, Sanchez (proven PL players) Rashford, Martial don't have talent or that Matic isn't one of the best players in his position or that effort players like Fellaini and Lingard dont maximize the most of their ability. That is hating, regardless if some of those players aren't performing up to standard, shyt that happened, just ask Chelsea fans who have seen not 1, not 2, but 3 drop offs following season after a title win in the last decade, but let me guess youre United you expect better.

Midfield and attack is fine, it's just not being used properly, in the so called United way. And to keep it 100, majority of FB's are shyt in this era, because majority of them barely know how to defend these days, but hey that's the modern football. Shaw and Dalot will be fine.
 
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Sorry but outside of DDG, united do not have elite talent around Pogba. Awful fullbacks and lets not talk about centrebacks. Ok midfield and broken & misaligned attack. Jose still takes 90% of the blame for me.
Actually United have a lot of talent. Matic, Fred and Herrera are all great players. Shaw was one of the best young fullbacks before leg fracture and then Mourinho proceeded to shyt on him for 2 straight years. Dalot another great young fullback.

Bailly is extremely talented but has shown no improvement under Mourinho, actually he regeressd. Smalling is very solid and it's a joke to try to replace him with a 70 million pound Harry Maguire.

Martial, Rashford, Lukaku, Sanchez, Mata, Lingard not enough talent in attack?
 

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Actually United have a lot of talent. Matic, Fred and Herrera are all great players. Shaw was one of the best young fullbacks before leg fracture and then Mourinho proceeded to shyt on him for 2 straight years. Dalot another great young fullback.

Bailly is extremely talented but has shown no improvement under Mourinho, actually he regeressd. Smalling is very solid and it's a joke to try to replace him with a 70 million pound Harry Maguire.

Martial, Rashford, Lukaku, Sanchez, Mata, Lingard not enough talent in attack?

From watching United that is not enough but to each their own. I find it hard to blame Pogba in this
 

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From watching United that is not enough but to each their own. I find it hard to blame Pogba in this

Every manager in the league knows about the space behind Pogba and how inconsistenly he tracks back. He's not that great without Kante/ prime Vidal covering for him.

But the issues at United are deeper than Pogba.
 

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Every manager in the league knows about the space behind Pogba and how inconsistenly he tracks back. He's not that great without Kante/ prime Vidal covering for him.

But the issues at United are deeper than Pogba.

I feel you. I know he isn't the perfect player by any means I just dont blame him for feeling a way about Jose. After the initial world cup comment, I wouldn't fukk with Jose either. I know people are saying he shouldn't have said what he said but I honestly don't have a problem with it. I don't think it was disrespectful but hey it is what it is :yeshrug:
 

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From watching United that is not enough but to each their own. I find it hard to blame Pogba in this

It's a public falling out, with both Mourinho and Pogba unable to stop gassing everytime a microphone is put in front of them or on social media. They like a married couple in counselling, where they both have to get the last word in. Neither one of them is helping Manchester United.
 

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It's a public falling out, with both Mourinho and Pogba unable to stop gassing everytime a microphone is put in front of them or on social media. They like a married couple in counselling, where they both have to get the last word in. Neither one of them is helping Manchester United.

I hear what your saying and I have seen a lot of pundits say the same thing but I just dont think Pogbas LATEST comments were that bad or disrespectful :yeshrug:
 

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I hear what your saying and I have seen a lot of pundits say the same thing but I just dont think Pogbas LATEST comments were that bad or disrespectful :yeshrug:

If it was an isolated comment, no. But because, they been going tit for tat, it's just an accumulation of the on going feud. While it helps the journos to write their stories and give the pundits something to talk about, I think everyone is getting really bored of it all, because it's rinse and repeat for the past 2 months now.

I think more people are siding with Pogba on this, because of Mourinho's past history of this sort of thing. But to some people, Pogbas play hasn't been that great either, so they wondering is this his way of masking his own poor form and finding a way to leave the club.
 

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I hear what your saying and I have seen a lot of pundits say the same thing but I just dont think Pogbas LATEST comments were that bad or disrespectful :yeshrug:

Imagine you are the manager and your player ran to tell them press the team should play attacking football. It undermines Mourinho.

Idk Pogba should just lay low, he's a world cup winner his brand isn't too damaged, just figure out if Mourinho is going or not, and if not then just leave end of season. Worst thing to be labelled is a manager killer.
 
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