Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - The Slotification of Liverpool is nearly complete

[phillycavsfan]

We saw a squad of Saudi guys beat Argentina in the 1st match World Cup and had them having all kinds of existential crises before they regrouped.

There is no combination of current American MLS players that would have come close.

US beat Spain in 2009, 1 year before they won the World Cup. One-off upsets happen from time-to-time. It's much harder to show enough quality week-to-week to attract the attention of scouts of clubs from better leagues.

Even when it wasn't a point of focus, MLS been sending players to Europe for the last 20 years.

 

[Trajan]

people juelzing about neymar ....



he is one of the top 30 footballers in europe right now.



in other words (contracts and objectors permitting), saudi could get all but about 30 players in europe's top leagues if they wanted to.

No one is doubting his ability..
However he's a bad barometer because he was on his way to semi retirement after PSG regardless

MLS chief says league not a retirement home after Neymar comments

Major League Soccer (MLS) is shedding its image as a league for players on the verge of retirement, commissioner Don Garber said after Paris St Germain and Brazil striker Neymar expressed his desire to play in the United States before his career ends.

www.reuters.com

I'm actually more surprised players like Ruben Neves and Milinkovic Savic went. They seemed to be on the cusp of a major move over the past few seasons. Unless they decided it wasn't going to materialise and cashed in

 

[phcitywarrior]

Capitalism been fukking y'all in the ass too long. You can't understand why anyone would want to challenge themselves and raise the level of their national team? I refuse to believe there isn't ONE Saudi player who isn't a competitor. The answer is because the level isn't there. In fact it's well below the average MLS player.

Again, we’re looking at things from the lens of the West. I can imagine for a practicing Muslim player that's getting paid as well as a Euro club, they'd want to stay at home. Europe is not exactly the most welcoming to Arabs, let's keep it a buck.

 

[phcitywarrior]

Surprised Serie A and Bundesliga have moved their start of the season up. Usually, the Prem would have 2-3 weeks before the other major Euro leagues started.

Fubo TV as a streaming service absolutely surpasses ESPN and Peacock by miles. You can tell the services that are passionate about football and the ones that use the game as another cash cow. Even Paramount, who basically bury the Argentina and Brazilian league deep somewhere in their service is still miles ahead of ESPN/Peacock.

Can you explain how Fubo TV is better? Between Paramount, ESPN+, and Peacock, I have UCL/EL, Prem, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, FA Cup, Dfb Pokal, CDR and Coppa Italia. Solid coverage there.

 

[trap101-ETHout-Allegri-In]

Bordales' ball is watching the mastery of the dark arts........

 

[phillycavsfan]

Again, we’re looking at things from the lens of the West. I can imagine for a practicing Muslim player that's getting paid as well as a Euro club, they'd want to stay at home. Europe is not exactly the most welcoming to Arabs, let's keep it a buck.

Japan and South Korea aren't in the West. They send players to Europe. I'm not asking for most or some players from Saudi to play in Europe. I'm asking for ONE.

Practically half of Ligue 1 practice Islam. Brighton had that one Iranian player for a few years. He didn't start, but he played a bit.

 

[concise]

US beat Spain in 2009, 1 year before they won the World Cup. One-off upsets happen from time-to-time. It's much harder to show enough quality week-to-week to attract the attention of scouts of clubs from better leagues.

Yea, and we are talking about today.


More specifically, you were talking about Saudi league of today.

You really think the team that the represented USA in this year's Gold Cup (pretty much 90 percent MLS guys) could do what that squad of SA based players did?

 

[null]

No one is doubting his ability..
However he's a bad barometer because he was on his way to semi retirement after PSG regardless

MLS chief says league not a retirement home after Neymar comments

Major League Soccer (MLS) is shedding its image as a league for players on the verge of retirement, commissioner Don Garber said after Paris St Germain and Brazil striker Neymar expressed his desire to play in the United States before his career ends.

www.reuters.com

I'm actually more surprised players like Ruben Neves and Milinkovic Savic went. They seemed to be on the cusp of a major move over the past few seasons. Unless they decided it wasn't going to materialise and cashed in

the first big players that went to citeh heard the same thing. it's got to be for the money ...

ts=5m25s



back in the days when joe royle was their greatest ever player .





in retrospect players like silva and @Toure have had their faith in the project rewarded and have been immortalised as the progenitors of city's great rise.

 

[trap101-ETHout-Allegri-In]

Can you explain how Fubo TV is better? Between Paramount, ESPN+, and Peacock, I have UCL/EL, Prem, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, FA Cup, Dfb Pokal, CDR and Coppa Italia. Solid coverage there.

Not bad..... even though I pirate all my shyt, this is the closest thing to Star+ in Latin America that I've seen that gives you bang for the buck. If you can finagle a VPN and get Star+ from Latin AMerica which is essentially ESPN Latin America you would be eating. Star+/ESPN have a literal monopoly on pretty much everything down there....

 

[null]

Again, we’re looking at things from the lens of the West. I can imagine for a practicing Muslim player that's getting paid as well as a Euro club, they'd want to stay at home.

even players like mahrez or nasri

 

[concise]

Japan and South Korea aren't in the West. They send players to Europe. I'm not asking for most or some players from Saudi to play in Europe. I'm asking for ONE.

Practically half of Ligue 1 practice Islam. Brighton had that one Iranian player for a few years. He didn't start, but he played a bit.

1. Does Japan or Korea offer comparable wages?


2. Most of those Muslim dudes in Ligue 1 grew up in France or countries with historical ties to France. Not the same.

 

[Peak]

 

[nyknick]

We saw a squad of Saudi guys beat Argentina in the 1st match World Cup and had them having all kinds of existential crises before they regrouped.

There is no combination of current American MLS players that would have come close.

So where are the Saudi league Alphonso Davies, Miguel Almirons, Tyler Adams and countless goalkeepers?

What was the average salary for Saudi league before the recent spending spree?

 

[ThrobbingHood]

FFP is a myth just like a black WAG.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Yea, and we are talking about today.


More specifically, you were talking about Saudi league of today.

You really think the team that the represented USA in this year's Gold Cup (pretty much 90 percent MLS guys) could do what that squad of SA based players did?

OK, since you Saudi League defenders keep deflecting I had to look it up myself. Currently there are some Saudis here and there in Eastern Europe and 1 guy in the lower leagues of Portugal. But nobody in the top leagues, not even in Holland or Belgium. That's not surprising, after all Saudi Arabia haven't qualified from a World Cup group stage since 1994.

Apparently five years ago the Saudis loaned out 9 players to different La Liga clubs in a league initiative to get some European club experience.

LaLiga agree deal to sign nine Saudi Arabian players on loan

Read this news on OneFootball.

onefootball.com

The most notable player involved is Salem Al-Dawsari, who has joined Villarreal having scored 28 goals in 161 games for Al-Hilal.
Villarreal have also signed a player for their second team.
Speaking about the arrival of their loan signing, Leganés said:
“With Yahia Al-Shehri’s arrival, the club has improved its squad and also gained visibility in the Arab world.”
Other players have joined Real Vallodolid, Rayo Vallecano, Levante, Numancia, and Sporting Gijon.

Al-Shehri never played a game for Leganes. Al-Dawsari had 1 appearance and no goals for the Yellow Submarine. Even Jozy Altidore scored a goal for Villarreal and he was a massive bust.