Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - The Slotification of Liverpool is nearly complete

[OneManGang]

The whole club got overhauled/streamlined post Emery. Remember that transfer committee you had? Remember all the scouts getting wished the best on their future endeavors? What things did Emery implement behind the scenes that helped Arteta?

Emery was part of those overhauls. Unfortunately his English was not good enough. He didn’t get the financial backing he wanted, didn’t get to choose all his targets. He did well with what he had and the players available. But he stabilized us in the league, got us playing a distinct style again. He did his part

Willian was signed strictly due to having Prem experience and it was a short term freebie at short notice. During the early months of Covid where money was tight. In the context of what was happening at that time it made sense. But the team wasn't stable or functional (without a true pre season mind you) and he flopped.

It was a signing no one wanted and we tolerated it bc it made some sense, but like a few of his signings the execution wasnt there at all. He was to raise the floor of the dysfunctional team and that didn’t happen. Basically took valuable minutes away from Saka and Pepe. And we basically begged Willian to end his contract, which he didn’t have to do. Arteta almost got fired this season, ESR stopped the rot against Chelsea. I’m almost positive ESR saved Artetas Arsenal career.

And they decided to spend what money they had that summer on trying to get the defensive structure and build up in place and working as a unit. Which is what happened in the 2nd half of that season. From Jan-May 21 Arsenal had the 3rd best record and defensive stats had improved. I.e conceding less attempts and goals. Under 40 goals for the first time in 5 seasons.

When he was backed. Which Emery really wasn’t in his time here. Again I’m not comparing the two as managers, Arteta has done well for the most part, but the devil is in the details

Saliba is whatever. Saliba got the game time to develop and make mistakes. Also considering what he went through during 2020 staying and playing in France was more beneficial for him.

Staying in France I’d agree was beneficial

 

[hood b. goode]

Why we letting a fan of the 17th ranked prem team own the thread? Thread rights should go to fans of whoever wins the most popular league. Pool fans, you up.

 

[hood b. goode]

This is the difference, not no 200m spent in January. Declan can go on TV and parrot off excuses, Saka can miss sitters like Sterling and it's OK, you don't hold yourselves accountable and your media friends won't either.

How much did Inter spend? PSG spent less than they ever have. It's mentality and these guys are LOSERS. The choice is yours as a fan if you want to join in the excuses Partey.

City lost one player (rodri) and collapsed like a house of cards

 

[nahnah]

Wanting both English teams to get humiliated tonight

 

[MVike28]

Wanting both English teams to get humiliated tonight

Spurs have a better chance of collapsing

United is at home it’s a wrap for that one

 

[Yayo Toure]

City lost one player (rodri) and collapsed like a house of cards

When was the last time you saw John Stones? Akanji? How many games KDB played?

All good to misrepresent for a few daps. Media not gonna tell you about the injuries and no excuse is made. City will win again and you will make excuses again. Circle of life.

 

[DrHackenbush]

Listen, it’s one thing to make excuses but two things can both be true at once. Declan has come out and said we haven’t been good enough.

PSG bought a 70 m winger in January and I guarantee their wage bill looks nothing like ours. PSG deserves credit for good coaching and recruitment but Arsenal isn’t on that level financially.

Kvara and Fabian Ruiz (just for an example) cost the same as Havertz and Merino. We could have easily afforded Kvara or at least a decent striker if the money hadn't of been wasted elsewhere. Why not buy Ivan Toney for 40 million? Because his "attitude wasn't good" (which no other manager or coach has ever said btw)

This guy hit the nail on the head btw

 

[DapMeUp!]

When was the last time you saw John Stones? Akanji? How many games KDB played?

All good to misrepresent for a few daps. Media not gonna tell you about the injuries and no excuse is made. City will win again and you will make excuses again. Circle of life.

Bro you can't rewrite history, we saw it in real time once Rodri went down you folded like never before.

I know you like to troll cause your own team bores you to death you barely discuss them, but those are the facts brodie

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Emery was part of those overhauls. Unfortunately his English was not good enough. He didn’t get the financial backing he wanted, didn’t get to choose all his targets. He did well with what he had and the players available. But he stabilized us in the league, got us playing a distinct style again. He did his part

You talking about the Gazidis overhaul that got disbanded within 2 years. Which was Emery Sven Rahul and Edu? I'm on about Arteta being promoted to manager from head coach.

It was a signing no one wanted and we tolerated it bc it made some sense, but like a few of his signings the execution wasnt there at all. He was to raise the floor of the dysfunctional team and that didn’t happen. Basically took valuable minutes away from Saka and Pepe. And we basically begged Willian to end his contract, which he didn’t have to do. Arteta almost got fired this season, ESR stopped the rot against Chelsea. I’m almost positive ESR saved Artetas Arsenal career.

What valuable mins did Willian steal from Saka? Saka started 30 games in the PL and another 2 off the bench. Started 41 games in all Comps. Pepe had 28 starts and was inconsistent. Good in the Europa not doing enough in the PL where he was struggled physically. At the start of 20/21 Saka was still a left flank player.


Thanks for the ESR reminder. The classic narrative (that ive seen) that Arteta held ESR hostage until he had no other choice but to play him due to injuries. When in fact ESR had been injured for half of the season and had only just returned before that Chelsea game.

When he was backed. Which Emery really wasn’t in his time here. Again I’m not comparing the two as managers, Arteta has done well for the most part, but the devil is in the details

Emery was a victim of circumstance on the transfers. That's more on Gazidis trying to modernised after Wenger. But they got duped by 2 frauds while Gazidis left. And that's why the lawyers took back control on transfers. Covid phucked that 20/21 summer so it more patch work than overhaul which got done 12 months later.

 

[OneManGang]

Kvara and Fabian Ruiz (just for an example) cost the same as Havertz and Merino. We could have easily afforded Kvara or at least a decent striker if the money hadn't of been wasted elsewhere. Why not buy Ivan Toney for 40 million? Because his "attitude wasn't good" (which no other manager or coach has ever said btw)

This guy hit the nail on the head btw

I am the biggest Havertz and Merino hater breh so I get it. They’ve been serviceable but abject failures of transfers from a midfield perspective. But I guarantee you their wages don’t come close to what Kvara or Ruiz are making. Can you fact check me on that?

I know Kvara had no chance of coming here no matter what anyone believes.

That’s a good post on the Twitter link

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Kvara and Fabian Ruiz (just for an example) cost the same as Havertz and Merino. We could have easily afforded Kvara or at least a decent striker if the money hadn't of been wasted elsewhere. Why not buy Ivan Toney for 40 million? Because his "attitude wasn't good" (which no other manager or coach has ever said btw)

This guy hit the nail on the head btw

Arsenal weren't signing off on no big transfers without a permanent SD this January. Also due to 70% revenue threshold coming into play from next season dropping down from 80% this year they were handicapped.

And why did Toney end up in Saudi instead of somewhere else in the Prem needing a striker?

 

[resistanze]

Those managers don't sack managers because they don't win trophies. They sack them because clubs under their watch aren't progressing or they lose the dressing room. Development of players stall, or they drop so many points over a sustained period of time that they risk missing out on Champions League qualification. Stability is an underrated quality in a manager, and Arsenal are a stable club. They still pump out potential stars at an impressive clip.

Yeah, Arsenal need to make a big splash up front. They also need a new left winger because Martinelli isn't good enough.

You don't consider not winning a trophy in five seasons a stall in progression? Clearly every big club in Europe over the last quarter century believe it is, since no other club has retained a manager who has gone with this long of a trophy drought.

 

[Bboystyle]

Trump will turn the World Cup into a shytshow.

90% of team mexcio wont even be allowed in

 

[DrHackenbush]

I am the biggest Havertz and Merino hater breh so I get it. They’ve been serviceable but abject failures of transfers from a midfield perspective. But I guarantee you their wages don’t come close to what Kvara or Ruiz are making. Can you fact check me on that?

I know Kvara had no chance of coming here no matter what anyone believes.

That’s a good post on the Twitter link

Havertz is on a massive wages he's our highest earner, I'm not sure what Kvara is on but its probably around the same as Havertz

Arsenal weren't signing off on no big transfers without a permanent SD this January. Also due to 70% revenue threshold coming into play from next season dropping down from 80% this year they were handicapped.

And why did Toney end up in Saudi instead of somewhere else in the Prem needing a striker?

Toney wanted to sign for Arsenal but Arteta doesn't like players with any personality, even though those are the players that get you over the line. He prob thought if Arsenal weren't gonna come in for him then he might as well go to the Saudi league and get the bag

 

[TobiOT]