GOPs fascism doesn't work if the Democrats were an actual principled party with bold strategies that went outside of keeping status quo. Similar to europe tVoters gave the dems the keys in 2020, because had biden agreed to bold progressive policies such as student loan forgiveness, mininum wage increase, free college education etc. 2021-2022 came around biden proceeded to tell his voters we're moving past bbb get back to work and eat a dikk. At that point you basically pissed off anyone that is younger than 50 that previously voted. The hubris dems run around thinking people aren't single issue voters is why we're here in the first place
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Democrats absolutely blew chances, which fostered more voter apathy. That's true. Biden could've overruled the parliamentarian and pushed the minimum wage increase through reconciliation. Their choice to defer to the Senate parliamentarian is a failure that shouldn't be forgotten. But the idea that "GOP fascism wouldn't work if Democrats were just bold" is a comforting oversimplification that dodges the deeper truths of this nation and its citizens. And I'm not doing that anymore.
GOP fascism works not because Democrats are timid, but because the GOP is structurally empowered to rule without winning majorities, weaponizes bad-faith obstruction, and is backed by a base conditioned to see multiracial democracy as a threat. That doesn't disappear with better messaging or bolder bills.
This outlook treats Republican extremism like a glitch caused by Democratic cowardice, as if the GOP wouldn't still be stacking the courts, gutting voting rights, banning books, and cheering authoritarianism even if Democrats had delivered student debt relief and free college. That's fantasy.
You bring up student loan forgiveness but ignore that the GOP sued to block the broader plan, and that a Supreme Court stacked by Republicans ruled it illegal. That's not just about Democrats lacking boldness in that particular instance. That's the result of a systemic blockade built by the right. Ignoring that is dishonest.
Yes, Democrats should stop deferring to outdated norms and fight harder for bold, transformative policies. They need to be bold in confronting the system itself. But blaming them as if they're the only actor here lets the actual authoritarians off the hook.
Outlaw
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Exactly, thank you for eloquently communicating the point I’ve been trying to make about the Republicans
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I completely agree with your assessment of Republican fascist/authoritarian intransigence, and even the structural advantage they have in minoritarian rule, but this is all the more reason to focus our attention on the only chess piece on the board we can control, which is the Democratic Party. All these "but but what about the Republicans!" arguments are defeatist and masturbatory precisely because of the nature of the GOP as you have laid it out. The only chance for GOP fascism to not work is for Democrats to become bolder. MAGA isn't going to be shamed or convinced of the merits of progressive ideology, they have to be treated as an immutable fact of nature that we work around to defeat.
Being generous, I think perhaps the source of the confusion in here is that some people are making descriptive arguments about what the historical record should show in terms of responsibility for our current situation, and other people are making normative arguments about what path of action we should be taking right now. In the former argument, it is correct to center the GOP as much, if not more, than the Democrats. In the latter argument, centering the GOP is a complete waste of time that only serves to protect and deflect accountability for the worthless leadership of the currently failing Do-Nothing Democratic Party that is the only vehicle that we can use to beat the GOP. But I suspect there are some posters who are knowingly engaging in the latter because of an unhealthy, unserious, parasocial approach to politics.
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He aspires to be Bill Maher.
mastermind
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@CrimsonTider would proudly support being sent to an internment camp if a Democrat ordered it. That’s how stupid that man is.
“It’s going to be okay, I voted for blue. We got this. This would be much worse if a Republican did it!”
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Dude, he has been doing this since 2016. He has not said an interesting thing in this section in 9 years. I put him on ignore once I started to realize that a few years ago.
Don’t understand your pointless hypotheticals
I don’t think anyone understands much of what he says at this point. His username is the ultimate oxymoron.
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That’s because you’re an idiot who would proudly goto an internment camp if a Democrat ordered it.
Call others idiots and have this in your post history, brehs
I don’t know which is more pitiful, Your groupies constantly getting triggered by this post and caping for you or the miserable and false reality you live in.
Even hardcore right leaning zionist defenders see it, yet blue maga still in here showing they ass
Lot of analogies being made. I think the most apt comparison now that we're 20 months into this is Sri Lanka's actions culminating in destruction of LTTE in 2009.
Same strategies (human shields, delayed shelling, killing of journalists, aid workers, bombing hospitals inside safe zones, rest of the world watching, UN leaving, whitewashing and denying warcrimes....), to the extent that it was studied by militaries the world over on how to do "counterinsurgency" going forward. All to build what is now called a tourist paradise with significant geopolitical advantages. And looks like that is also a likely outcome for Gaza and Palestine, even with the amount of global coverage this got unlike the 2009 Tamil genocide.