The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

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Right now Hamas is under huge pressure from

Egypt
Jordan
Turkey
Qatar
The rest of the Gulf Arabs

And other big Muslim countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan….

To end the war. And they’ve all been getting Trump on their side.

And all those countries want to stop the domestic out roar of Gaza. Very obvious

What's Iran's position? Seriously.


Hamas and Islamic Jihad and etc are totally going to disarm, Bro. Trust me.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Outpouring of people wanting Hamas to keep fighting is weird

They want Isreal defeated

 

[FAH1223]

What's Iran's position? Seriously.


Hamas and Islamic Jihad and etc are totally going to disarm, Bro. Trust me.

Iran is on board



Hamas disarming is one thing. The other factions is a whole another.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[FAH1223]

Read this article by Muhammad Shehada. He is from Gaza. The last part stood out to me. He also talks about there is now a realization that armed resistance hasn't achieved anything. That there is nothing Palestinians can do.

Arab officials have also told him that people like Khaled Meshaal and other political leaders in Hamas describe Oct 7 as a reckless disaster behind closed doors. Which we knew. Sinwar and the military ops people acted on their own.

https://www.972mag.com/october-7-palestine-graveyard-failed-strategies/

‘There is nothing Palestinians can do’

There is little chance of Hamas launching another October 7-style attack in the foreseeable future. Many analysts agree that what allowed for the assault to succeed was catching Israel completely off guard — an element of surprise that is long gone, along with the likelihood that Israel would repeat the same tactical and intelligence failures.

Hamas understands this well, which is why in negotiations this week over U.S. President Donald Trump’s latest plan to end the war, it has signaled to mediators its willingness to decommission “offensive weapons” while retaining light “defensive weapons,” such as rifles and anti-tank missiles. The emphasis on the latter stems from a fear of Israel reneging on withdrawing from Gaza or carrying out regular raids unchallenged, as in the West Bank.

Hamas may also need those light arms in order both to enforce the ceasefire and get buy-in from its own members, as well as other smaller but more hardline groups. It may also believe that disarming completely could create a security vacuum in Gaza, one that could be filled by Salafist and jihadist groups or criminal gangs, like the Israeli-backed Abu Shabab militia. And, of course, there is fear of societal retribution, of people attacking Hamas members on the streets.

But even if Hamas manages to reach a deal to end the war that includes full Israeli withdrawal and allows the group to retain “defensive weapons,” armed resistance — once seen as the last card to play after the collapse of negotiations, diplomacy, and moral appeals — now lies in the same graveyard of failed strategies. Two years into the genocide, what remains is not conviction but collapse: of language, hope, politics, and every appeal Palestinians have made in the face of their annihilation.

Last year, I asked a top EU leader what he thinks Palestinians should do differently, and what advice he would give to the PA, Hamas, and the Palestinian public. After giving it some thought, he resigned in his chair in despair. “There is nothing Palestinians can do,” he admitted. “They tried everything.”

At best, Trump’s latest plan will end the war, but what will endure is not a roadmap but a political void. And in that void, Palestinians will be left to grapple with the heaviest truth of all: that no matter which path they choose — quiet submission or armed defiance — the world has already failed to prevent the genocide of their people. This is a fact that cannot be undone.

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[wire28]

People are dancing in the streets. Only through the strength and resolve of Donald the Dove was this possible. The peace prize is his.

 

[wire28]

Is this true??

 

[Pressure]

Read this article by Muhammad Shehada. He is from Gaza. The last part stood out to me. He also talks about there is now a realization that armed resistance hasn't achieved anything. That there is nothing Palestinians can do.

Arab officials have also told him that people like Khaled Meshaal and other political leaders in Hamas describe Oct 7 as a reckless disaster behind closed doors. Which we knew. Sinwar and the military ops people acted on their own.

I’m glad folks have reached the acceptance phase.

 

[Outlaw]

I’m glad folks have reached the acceptance phase.

I don’t understand why something that should be seen as common sense is only legitimatized when an article is written.

We’ve been saying that armed resistance like October 7th was a colossal failure for the Palestinian people but we were called zionists for pointing out the obvious

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Outpouring of people wanting Hamas to keep fighting is weird

Who are these individuals that are wanting Hamas to keep fighting?

 

[Lord Beasley]

They want Isreal defeated

Those ain't the the same folks seeing their whole bloodline wiped out. Just weirdos sitting in their first world houses acting outraged.

Hamas is a terror org, but the war in Gaza is a terrorist operation indiscriminately targeting innocent Palestinians who have nowhere else to go. That's their home and they now have to rebuild with little to no help

 

[Json]

Those ain't the the same folks seeing their whole bloodline wiped out. Just weirdos sitting in their first world houses acting outraged.

Hamas is a terror org, but the war in Gaza is a terrorist operation indiscriminately targeting innocent Palestinians who have nowhere else to go. That's their home and they now have to rebuild with little to no help

Are you crazy?

Do you have any idea how much money is going to be made rebuilding Palestine? If anything as long as Israel stays out of it, there’s no reason they can’t build something more sustainable

 

[FAH1223]

I’m glad folks have reached the acceptance phase.

I don’t understand why something that should be seen as common sense is only legitimatized when an article is written.

We’ve been saying that armed resistance like October 7th was a colossal failure for the Palestinian people but we were called zionists for pointing out the obvious

I think you guys need to read that article and listen to Muhammad in this podcast. I’ve followed him for years. He isn’t some crazy Hamas supporter. He was posting about the Great March of Return in 2018-19. You all saw how the Israelis responded to that by maiming thousands who were marching peacefully.



The Palestinian Authority has submitted to Israel and in return the settlement project has been supercharged.

And again I didn’t support Oct 7. Anyone who’s followed this knew the genocidal response was coming.

But what can the Palestinians do?

 

[Loose]

Who are these individuals that are wanting Hamas to keep fighting?

I need to find these hamas supporting individuals who want them to fight israel and win this "war"

 

[mastermind]

I think you guys need to read that article and listen to Muhammad in this podcast. I’ve followed him for years. He isn’t some crazy Hamas supporter. He was posting about the Great March of Return in 2018-19. You all saw how the Israelis responded to that by maiming thousands who were marching peacefully.



The Palestinian Authority has submitted to Israel and in return the settlement project has been supercharged.

And again I didn’t support Oct 7. Anyone who’s followed this knew the genocidal response was coming.

But what can the Palestinians do?

You are discussing a serious matter with people who are completely unserious.

No one is defending Hamas, but any peaceful measure was eradicated when the IDF were shooting the heads off children during the March of Return.

Israel is committed to committing genocide and people, especially those two, are committed to defending them.