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You’re highlighting a flaw in human psychology. Humans rather experience pain than boredom. You’re saying Americans rather experience the complete destruction of our liberal society than live within the status quo.

No matter what type of bold economic vision you want the democrats to implement, eventually that will become “the status quo”.
Absolutely which is why the party has to continue progressing hence the term progressive. status quo is not going to last 50 years in any climate
 

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I agree with most of this, but it still don't think it answers the question of why working class voters have been trending towards Republicans for the past few cycles. They were trending this way before inflation become a major political issue and before Kamala was the nominee.

I also don't buy that Americans prioritize their ability to discriminate against trans people and illegal immigrants more than they prioritize their own economic interests.
They’ve been priotizing hate of minorities over their own economic interests for decades. If they didn’t smooth mind would have had his proliteriat revolution years ago. Mobilizing hate is the only way republicans have been keeping power. They just have recently been getting some dummies to go along with the “candidate of change” angle for Trump. Obama Bernie (they stole it from him!) and Trump are all change agents. That’s the true mechanism of their popularity. That’s why we need the rock @Outlaw :troll:
 

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What you’re saying makes zero sense. Republicans offer the reversal, the complete antithesis of a “bold economic vision”, in fact they offer a complete gutting of the social safety net.

Somehow that’s more appealing than the status quo or incrementalism?

Interesting :jbhmm:

You’re admitting humanity is too dumb for socialism :jbhmm:
The populace is a box of rocks. 60+ million people voting for Trump 3 times proves it. Dems need to stop acting like people know what’s best for them. People are idiots. You have to trick them into voting in their interest
 

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sounds like you don't spend a lot of time around white working class republicans/conservatives and I love that for you

they literally breathe that shyt and drag queens reading to children
Rising democratic star and former cog in the wheel of the American military apparatus Graham Platner just got exposed for exposing this basically :mjlol: these people breathe hate like they need it more than oxygen
 

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I’m not a trump supporter moron I’m a intelligent free thinker that doesn’t fall for fear tactics. I mentioned police shootings because of the original post about Obama. He’s done a terrible job like every president but your dumbass gonna go vote for the next president to do the same things. Bush lied about wmd and started 2 wars. Obama let white supremacy flourish and bailed out the bankers that caused a global recession with YOUR money. Trump downplayed covid. But the media tells you to be scared of trump so you are. Your dumbass probably didn’t start wearing a mask until they told you to didn’t you?

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forum is a joke


mods have gotta do better
 

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forum is a joke


mods have gotta do better
Israeli hasbara troll went from “I’m not going to respond” to responding 3 times, to taking time to dig through my post history, to calling to mods for censorship.

Every Israeli tactic all in one post you can’t make this shyt up :dead:
 

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Nope. There's at least 2 or 3 shyt could be all the same person for all it matters doing their greatest 4cac hits in here. I just want people to know what they're interacting with. You've been sucking Trump's dikk on here since his first term. You might wanna go back to tlr where you can blend in.



Pooh shiesty is another young black man that grew up in dusty ass Memphis. You suburban nikkas don’t understand some people the odds are against them at birth. You think a black kid growing up in a Chicago project going to be a damn astronaut?

Nobody is saying he wasn’t a menace, but whether he’s a menace or in jail this is a L for the black community


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Why do rural cacs vote against the government programs that they take enjoy if it’s all about material benefits?
I never said it’s all about material benefits. I said people are hungry for change and there’s only one party offering them anything transformative.

The New Deal wasn’t just about material benefits, it was radically changing the ways the public thought about their government and their lives. The vision of Universal Healthcare does the same. It’s not just “oh, I’m saving $150 a month” like Neoliberal Democrats like to reduce everything to, it’s “the Democrats saved my wife’s life.” or “the Democrats made sure I didn’t have to spend the last days of my father’s life arguing with people trying to deny his insurance claims.” Those are not just material benefits, those are spiritual experiences that led to a whole demographic of people literally worshipping FDR.

Rural cacs don’t vote for that because the Democrats don’t even give them the option to. So it’s either the transformative vision of the right-wing MAGA fascists or the status quo vision of the Democratic Neoliberals. If you’re a rural cac who (correctly) feels like they’re on the wrong side of the prosperity see-saw, why would you ever vote for the Democrats? Saying “oh well they’re too racist and sexist to even try offering them an alternative vision” is just complete loser behavior.

Yes some number of them are too far gone down the path of bigotry to vote for a radically transformative progressive vision like the New Deal. So what? We don’t need to win them all.
 

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Israeli hasbara troll went from “I’m not going to respond” to responding 3 times, to taking time to dig through my post history, to calling to mods for censorship.

Every Israeli tactic all in one post you can’t make this shyt up :dead:

Another post gave him the benefit of the doubt of not being a spastic excuse of a human being and there's nothing in the last 5 pages that supports that grant
 
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