The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

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this, his reasoning for a lot of his ventures ending always makes sense for the most part, but his whole attitude to putting it on blast publicly is the most self destructive thing he could do and he does it every time lol
Yeah, if you ignore the ranting and emotion, Joe makes valid points.

He was mad at complex (and AK verified it on stream) because they were only contracted for Mon-Thurs. Complex cut a deal with Spotify for a Friday show without telling Joe & AK and when Joe found out he got upset and didn’t show up.

Complex had to change the deal with Spotify from “Friday show must have Joe & AK to AK and a celebrity”. That’s why the Friday shows had the random guest start showing up.

When it comes to the Spotify deal, remember there was a Tidal offer too. According to Joe he said “

“Hey Hov, if I come to Tidal can I see the data?”:ld:

Hov: fukk no:mjtf:

If we take Joe at his word, Spotify lied and told him they would show him the data and didn’t. So he got understandably upset:manny:
 

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Hell no, their best move was get paid for adlibbing for Joe while using their platform for other things


But no matter what Joe says, if your contract says you are entitled to a certain percentage of profits then you deserve to see the numbers

I think they’re going to sue Joe
If he was overpaying them. That could be a mistake.
 

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I been reading through this thread and I am amazed people dont get it.... he could have given Mal and Rory even 5 percent equity each..
People acting like giving even brand new employees equity is unheard of. You get at least 4 or 5 figures worth of equity at any halfway decent tech job even if you’re coming out of college.


A bunch of clowns around the internet screaming about bosses and employees when they most likely have never worked a decent job with a competitive benefits package in their lives:mjlol:
 

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nikka they didn’t build it. They werent even there from the beginning. They came in LATER bro. They shouldn’t own shyt of his and it was ridiculous for them to think they should. They should’ve been positioning themselves to be owners of their OWN endeavors but they weren’t. They were trying to piggy back off JOE’s shyt and own that.
Piggy back what? The show was worth absolutely nothing when they joined. They had zero sponsors, zero deals in place and brought nothing in as even Joe has said. The money didn’t start coming in until they did.

Joe probably is desperately trying to hide this so he’s hiding the books.
 

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Piggy back what? The show was worth absolutely nothing when they joined. They had zero sponsors, zero deals in place and brought nothing in as even Joe has said. The money didn’t start coming in until they did.

Joe probably is desperately trying to hide this so he’s hiding the books.
Son. Piggy back meaning they tried to ride the coattails of the success of the podcast rather than doing shyt OUTSIDE of the podcast. Something EVERYONE ELSE involved with the podcast does. Smh.
 

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The only way to know that is to see an audit of the books

“You will never see my books”
-Joe Budden

that doesn’t sound like someone overpaying
Son Apparently he showed them the books. Rory tried to audit this nikka’s books behind his back. Now I don’t know the details of the contract. But from what I’m hearing. The contract had them getting paid a specific amount. And he paid them more. THEY didn’t read their OWN contract.
 
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I'm guessing Rory & Mal's contracts has something that states they get paid based on how well the Podcast is doing, thats why a lawyer is now involved.

Otherwise why would they have not renegotiated contracts or ask for a raise in 3yrs?.... like Joe keeps saying.....whilst the podcast has grown massively. Doesn't make sense.

They expected to be paid accordingly but must of realised Joe is using the money they're supposed to getting on his own 'expenses' and funding the Network Joe owns himself. Writing it off as 'business expenses' and out of the pot of money that Rory & Mal get paid from.

So rightfully they wanted to see the books.........Joe & Ian spent that 2hours talking about expenses and how they don't touch the YouTube money, things come out of Joe's own pocket etc.....just to cover up what's been going on lol.

It'll all come out eventually.
 

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Joe went on for weeks about Spotify not letting him see their books and determine how much value they are bringing in. Tried to tie racism into it to get black people to ride. Now he hiding the bag from his co hosts and firing them for asking questions . You can’t make this up.
ONCE AGAIN, JOE SHOWED THEM THE BOOKS

THEY THEN TRIED TO GET AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF THE JBP

WHY DO Y'ALL KEEP POSTING THIS LIE??
 

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I'm all for people's views on friendship. I would give someone the shirt off my back and try to remain loyal in all situations

but I'm not gonna have ownership of something I fought and built and then sign a portion to you. I will help you build your own foundation. People are sliding past the point of actual flat out ownership of shyt. Nike doesnt just give footlocker 10% of their company because they move the shoes. You look foolish pretending Rory and Mal built shyt when they were just there for the ride. Joe has been getting views since Tahiry, Marissa, Complex, Love and Hiphop etc. The show dont stop.

In a realistic world yeah you should be able to negotiate something slowly. But at the same point you proved you dont bring anything to the table by not actually bringing shyt besides rambling. There's been people before Rory and Mal, there's people after too. If you wanted to break your friend off, they would have to actually do something to break off with. If you watch comedy podcasts, the main owner will gain a liking to you and then give you a show, in the same studio under your own name. It not only pays him back but it gives you a free platform with a camera and editing team already in place. Yall think Dr Phil started on Oprah and was like "I want to own some Oprah shyt?" Does Bob Barker own Price is right? lol These nikkas are sitting in the space shuttle and not pressing lift off. They want Joe to buy the launch pad, maintain it and then fly them to the moon. Just so they can say ... yeah I want to own the moon too. Most of the world will never see the space ship, let alone get to fly it for free while getting paid too. All you had to do is record JBP Monday and then say "Hey I'd like to come by Wednesday and do an hour show under your umbrella" Joe would be like "I'll take a percent and we will pay the overhead for camera and sound and then project what your viewership to monetization ratio is and see what you are left with" Then you ask him... "look if this works, I'll let you own the rights to episodes on the JBP and sign a contract that holds me here for 3 years.... then I want free reign to keep my name incase things go left" Now you have an escape plan incase you feel some type of way, you can take your audience with you if you leave. In the meantime you collect from JBP money and your side podcast under his umbrella, everyone is happy. Joe gets a bigger network, you get ownership and paid more. The camera crew gets paid again etc. Bridget Kelly didnt sit around and wait for Joe to carry her on his back and shyt.


when you talk about % of profits even... you'd have to know before or after the overhead. Lets say Joe was slicing you up a little bit to pay extra shyt and you werent getting 100% you only got 75% or 80% ... You would still come out looking like an idiot because you are taking a quick 20% back (not including lawyer fees) just to crash and burn your chances at free money for years to come. It sounds wild I know, but would you rather fight and be fired over 20% or keep building and get another 80% for next year and then 80% for the next year etc. You can always audit him at the very end and collect that 20% off every year once its done done.
 
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