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[Roman Brady]

ufc signs kauffman, julie kedzie and 2 other no names to the womans bantamweight division


ps cant coenan cut to 135?

 

[Screwface Exchange]

I'm hammered? LOL Let's go through some of what you said:

- 'horrible main card'. This card is probably better than any FX or FUEL card we had.

- 'Struve will win somehow and it will mean absolutely nothing in the rankings... If Hunt wins, means absolutely nothing in the heavyweight division.' Wow, look at my previous post as to why this fight is very relevent to the HW division.

- 'both fighters r probably gonna b more scared to lose, than trying to win.' Lombard is going to be afraid to lose? Do you even watch MMA? LOL


- 'This card is barely even a Fuel tv fight' Look at my first point above.

And somehow, I'm the one that's hammered?

Age is irrelevent in this argument. Hunt/Struve is an important fight in the HW division and it's going to an exciting fight. That is why it's an excellent co-main for a free [FX and FUEL] card or a decent to good co-main for a PPV. Is that so hard to understand. Find me a co-main fight on an FX or FUEL card that is easily better than this fight.

@ bolded, we're arguing about the main card .

Just because a fight has a big finish, doesnt make it a good co main event. you can go to any local trailer park mma promotion and watch guys get beat up and finished. It's the fact that the fight means something for the rankings. you said for the winner of this fight, they are 1 win away from a title fight. you think if Hunt wins this he's gettin a fight against a JDS or Reem or even Cormier? Really? Most likely Hunt will end up facing Roy nelson, and if Struve wins, he'll get a rematch against a Roy nelson. These dues can get a 6 or 7 win streak, their not in the class of a JDS, Cormier or Reem yet. and by class, i'm not just talking about fighting ability I'm talking about selling/promoting a fight ability.

Again, there's a reason why the same fighters keep fighting on these Fuel/versus/fight night cards. They are trying to get their names out there with the public as they are not able to hold their weight in selling/promoting ppv's.

 

[Screwface Exchange]

- 'both fighters r probably gonna b more scared to lose, than trying to win.' Lombard is going to be afraid to lose? Do you even watch MMA? LOL

Lombard came in UFC with a big contract, and hoping to fight once and move up into a num1 contenders fight rite away. he took a close loss to Boestch which just halted the hype machine on him. to the active mma fan, they know Lombard is better than that, but to the casual mma fan, Lombard jus looks like a overhyped fighter from a lower ring mma promotion. UFC is already mkin money off the avid mma fan, its the casual and new mma fans they're tryin to attract and get more ppv buys. To the casual fan, they look at Lombard n think jake shields. Comes over to ufc, suppose 2 fight once n then get title shot, lose and never hear much noise from again. If Lombard loses to Okami, he's goin way down to gate keeper status.

yeah i know that sounds extreme n harsh, but go look at all the opponets who've lost to Okami in the UFC. How many of them worked their way back up to title shots?

Okami vs lombard, gonna b a grappling event, very technical, but not too exciting.

 

[PHamm]

so, if aldo beats pettis, he gets a shot at the winner of bendo/melendez for the lightweight title. Dana playing on PS3 career mode right now.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Just because a fight has a big finish, doesnt make it a good co main event. you can go to any local trailer park mma promotion and watch guys get beat up and finished. It's the fact that the fight means something for the rankings. you said for the winner of this fight, they are 1 win away from a title fight. you think if Hunt wins this he's gettin a fight against a JDS or Reem or even Cormier? Really? Most likely Hunt will end up facing Roy nelson, and if Struve wins, he'll get a rematch against a Roy nelson. These dues can get a 6 or 7 win streak, their not in the class of a JDS, Cormier or Reem yet. and by class, i'm not just talking about fighting ability I'm talking about selling/promoting a fight ability.

Again, there's a reason why the same fighters keep fighting on these Fuel/versus/fight night cards. They are trying to get their names out there with the public as they are not able to hold their weight in selling/promoting ppv's.

This is so stupid on many levels. You don't like the fight because it means nothing for the rankings? Are you a fan or a UFC exec. And the winner of this fight will face someone like JDS or Reem. How are you going to build the division if you have guys not progressing. Esp Struve, who is still young. You would rather the same 3-4 guys fight each other over and over again. GTFOH.

 

[The ADD]

so, if aldo beats pettis, he gets a shot at the winner of bendo/melendez for the lightweight title. Dana playing on PS3 career mode right now.

 

[Ralph Wiggum]

That Anderson Silva movie Like Water is on netflix streaming if anyone hasn't seen it. It's pretty good.


edit: it's also on youtube

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Qaex-0PRE"]Anderson Silva Like Water.2012 BDRIP (Documentary Movie) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Screwface Exchange]

This is so stupid on many levels. You don't like the fight because it means nothing for the rankings? Are you a fan or a UFC exec. And the winner of this fight will face someone like JDS or Reem. How are you going to build the division if you have guys not progressing. Esp Struve, who is still young. You would rather the same 3-4 guys fight each other over and over again. GTFOH.

Didn't say I dont like the fight because of the rankings, I am talking about the difference between a Main even and Co Main event fight, compared to a main card or prelim fight. Main Event fights should affect the rankings. There should be a main draw, which helps sell the card as a whole to fill the seats and helps increase the ppv buys or tv ad revenue.

Yeah yeah, every1 says Struve is young, he's developing, this will be his 13th fight in the ufc, there is progressing and there is stalling. He's 25, and if in 13 fights just in the ufc, he still hasn't realized his potential, then maybe he just isnt a main card fighter. Outside the UFC he's had 18 fights. So thats 31 fights, MMA isn't about age, its about experience level, skill and attitude.

In comparison Michael Mcdonald is 22, and fought for the interim belt in his 5th fight in the UFC. Was he not good enough for the title shot and maybe Joe Silva n Dana should have held him back n let him progress more?

My argument is that some of you guys are saying this card is PPV quality, and its clearly not PPV quality. A fight card is more than just having 2 guys smashing their heads inthe middle of the ring, there is the business side of things, there is the buildup of future no1 contenders. This card has no future no1 contenders within the next year. Most of these fighers have fought multiple times on these 'free' shows, and it looks just like a recycling of past Fuel shows. Will there be good/great fights, of course there will be. Just like that Bermudez/Grice fight. It was great, but it was still a prelim fight. You can't put that fight as a main event and sell tickets. no matter how much they were slugging it out.

 

[TheNatureBoy]

I like that as well, if Aldo does beat Showtime he really has nothing left to prove at FW and would have just beaten 2 of the best LW's in the world back to back. Plus that is an incentive for him taking on these LW's dropping down to challenge him without winning any FW fights. He can vacate the belt and they can do a couple of fights to crown a new champ.

I wouldn't mind if Showtime wins if he stays at FW and defends a few times though before going back up to LW in the future. Him being a new champ opens up some new matchups in the division.

Daniel Strauss is out of his FW title bout with Pat Curran due to a broken hand

 

[Roman Brady]

I like that as well, if Aldo does beat Showtime he really has nothing left to prove at FW and would have just beaten 2 of the best LW's in the world back to back.

Bendo disagrees

Daniel Strauss is out of his FW title bout with Pat Curran due to a broken hand

Its shyt like this that infuriates me about bellator.That fight should've happened already

 

[TheNatureBoy]

Bendo disagrees Its shyt like this that infuriates me about bellator.That fight should've happened already

Not saying he would have the 2 best, but 2 of the best in the division.

Bellator just has had a string of injuries in the FW div, first Pitbull got hurt, then Curran, and now Strauss which has created this log-jam of challengers. Depending on how long Strauss will be out, it may not be a bad idea to let the Russian winner get the shot (assuming he is healthy) and let Strauss face the winner whenever he comes back.

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Main Event of WSOF next event

Apparently UFC 157 did really well on ppv and outperformed their expectations
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[Roman Brady]

Main Event of WSOF next event

In a passing glance I said to myself "i never even knew the ufc cut cheick kongo" but now i see its anthony johnson completely forgot the match was happening.Hopefully he comes in shape



ps has there ever been a fighter to dabble in not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 weightclasses?

 

[semtex]

^Dan Henderson

 

[The ADD]

^Dan Henderson

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