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[The Infamous]

This weight class moving between top ranked guys gotta slow down. yea guys on losing streaks moving down ok, i understand. But whatever happened to guys losing to the champ and then mkin their way back up the rankings while puttin on sum great matches.

If it isn't a joke fight like Sonnen/Jones, I don't see it being that big of an issue.

u just reiterated exactly what dana stated as if you were going out on a limb u should put quotation marks to differentiate between the quote and your post.

one rule for nick another rule for everyone else.As for hendo/rashad its about 2 years too late they are both

Nick's a pretty big draw and one of the most exciting fighters in the sport. What do you expect? Plus, I'm pretty sure that was Riddle's second failed drug test, while Nick has only had one.

I think it's too early to call Hendo and Rashad

 

[Screwface Exchange]

ne body know what he exactly failed for though? was it PED's or recreation like weed. I dont mind a fighter failin for smokin up during trainin n ish. but Roids n hgh is another beast.

 

[The Infamous]

^ both failed drug tests were for weed.

 

[So UnThotful]

fukking riddle, was a fan of his goofy whiteboy sawg

 

[Ralph Wiggum]

43 is 43 but dont forget the last time he fought was against shogun which was 2011 if i'm not mistaken.And who the fuk is thor? riddle

guy from TUF, he lost tonight

 

[So UnThotful]

Samoan Excellence in this pic, Ray and Hunt

 

[Roman Brady]

Nick's a pretty big draw and one of the most exciting fighters in the sport. What do you expect? Plus, I'm pretty sure that was Riddle's second failed drug test, while Nick has only had one.

I think it's too early to call Hendo and Rashad

case of if you hear it long enough you will start believing it i imagine? because the numbers say otherwise. Aint goin to get into what numbers he drew on showtime/cbs. But ever since he returned to UFC hes headlined 2 cards, one against penn which did a meager 280k.And the other was against some dude named carlos which did a solid 400k.Thats pretty soft given the amount of press and rah rah the motherfukker gets..

A lot f gsp fans are thirsty to see him between diaz's legs for 5 rounds and dana knows it'll fetch him at least 650-700k buys so hes making comprises that is all.Dont say hes a "big" draw u sound drunk with that

 

[puppetmaster]

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[Screwface Exchange]

case of if you hear it long enough you will start believing it i imagine? because the numbers say otherwise. Aint goin to get into what numbers he drew on showtime/cbs. But ever since he returned to UFC hes headlined 2 cards, one against penn which did a meager 280k.And the other was against some dude named carlos which did a solid 400k.Thats pretty soft given the amount of press and rah rah the motherfukker gets..

Actually, the numbers prove that Diaz is a pretty good draw, compared to some other fighters. UFC 137 him against BJ, no belt on the line, co main fight was kongo/mitrione. and that drew 280k ppv buys and a live gate of 3.9 million.

In comparison the PPV directly before that, UFC 136, had 2 championships on the line, main was Edger vs Gray, and co main was Aldo vs Florian. their ppv buys was only 225, and their live gate was only 2.2m. Mind you even the 3rd fight on that card was Sonnen vs Stann, and Sonnen every1 considers a great seller of fights.

Now that UFC 143 Condit vs Diaz for interim belt, had 400k ppv buys and live gate of 2.4m. In comparison, Bones vs Machida, with Mir vs big nog, and tito vs lil nog on the card, drew 484k ppv buys. Thats alot of crowd favs and still only drew 84k more than Diaz n Carlos did for the interim title.

Now I wouldn't say Diaz is a top draw, he's far from that, but he is consistently a fairly good draw, especially so considering his lack of doing interviews and build up to the fights. Now GSP, has been a great draw, just in GSP's last 4 fights, the lowest PPV buy rate is 700k, with a high of 800k.

 

[Screwface Exchange]

Where are they now, Kimbo Slice.

 

[The ADD]

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[Roman Brady]

Actually, the numbers prove that Diaz is a pretty good draw, compared to some other fighters. UFC 137 him against BJ, no belt on the line, co main fight was kongo/mitrione. and that drew 280k ppv buys and a live gate of 3.9 million.

penn (while bein on the downside was a name) and it was nick's first fight back in the ufc. 280k buys is a failure. Doesn't matter what the live gate is cuz depending on epending on the area they gas/slash the price.

In comparison the PPV directly before that, UFC 136, had 2 championships on the line, main was Edger vs Gray, and co main was Aldo vs Florian. their ppv buys was only 225, and their live gate was only 2.2m. Mind you even the 3rd fight on that card was Sonnen vs Stann, and Sonnen every1 considers a great seller of fights.

so you are going to construct your arguement for diaz's box office viability by comparing his numbers to the ppv juggernauts that are edgar/maynard? Yeah cuz we know the lighterrweights draw so well right. Wow you really made your case there.

Now that UFC 143 Condit vs Diaz for interim belt, had 400k ppv buys and live gate of 2.4m. In comparison, Bones vs Machida, with Mir vs big nog, and tito vs lil nog on the card, drew 484k ppv buys. Thats alot of crowd favs and still only drew 84k more than Diaz n Carlos did for the interim title

first of all a lot of the fans that bought that fight did with the intention they were gettin GSP/diaz for the title. But let's not let that get in the way of the truth.Secondly when have mir (and to a greater extent "big" nog) sold a card without being a foil to a legit star? Mir isn't a crowd favourite.84k is 84k hell edgar/henderson 1 beat penn/diaz and the lw can't draw for shyt so the proof is in the pudding if u want to go that route

Now I wouldn't say Diaz is a top draw, he's far from that, but he is consistently a fairly good draw, especially so considering his lack of doing interviews and build up to the fights. Now GSP, has been a great draw, just in GSP's last 4 fights, the lowest PPV buy rate is 700k, with a high of 800k.

but the clown who's arguement u are anchoring did. And white rent a thug teens don't need to stay abreast of their fav fighter with
Interviews. They've seen enough of diaz's antics for him to be idolized. Who was talkin about GSP again?

 

[Screwface Exchange]

so you are going to construct your arguement for diaz's box office viability by comparing his numbers to the ppv juggernauts that are edgar/maynard? Yeah cuz we know the lighterrweights draw so well right. Wow you really made your case there.

If Diaz is drawing more than the lightweight champion, then I guess Diaz is a good draw in comparison to other champions and other weight classes then.

How about the Silva/Okami UFC 134. It was named 2011 event of the year by SherDog, and its ppv buy was 335k. Condit/Diaz still beat it. So yes the numbers do prove Diaz is a good draw. He's not the best or in the upper upper echelon, but he's far from the worst in ppv draw.

 

[Roman Brady]

If Diaz is drawing more than the lightweight champion, then I guess Diaz is a good draw in comparison to other champions and other weight classes then.

*beats head against wall*

How about the Silva/Okami UFC 134. It was named 2011 event of the year by SherDog, and its ppv buy was 335k..

sherdog could make a list that puts rousey ahead of aldo on the p4p list, doesnt make it true .And if it did 335k buys surely they were talkin about excitement level not box office success

Condit/Diaz still beat it. So yes the numbers do prove Diaz is a good draw. He's not the best or in the upper upper echelon, but he's far from the worst in ppv draw.

I already stated a vital reason that inflated condit/diaz's ppv.But for you to use anderson (who cant draw in the states at best of tiimes without a legit foil) and okami (who has 0 value) is really reaching

 

[Screwface Exchange]

*beats head against wall*
sherdog could make a list that puts rousey ahead of aldo on the p4p list, doesnt make it true .And if it did 335k buys surely they were talkin about excitement level not box office successI already stated a vital reason that inflated condit/diaz's ppv.But for you to use anderson (who cant draw in the states at best of tiimes without a legit foil) and okami (who has 0 value) is really reaching

So you the lightweight champ doesnt count as a main draw for fans, Anderson Silva arguably the num1 p4p doesnt count as a main draw. But Diaz who puts up good ppv buys and isn't a good draw.

What sense do you make, a good draw is sum1 who draws good ppv's period. fullstop. No excuses, of what city, country the fight is in, no excuses of who's hurt or on or off the card, good draw means, u put them as a main event on a card, n that card will have solid sales.

When Bj penn was the lightweight champ is was drawing big numbers, no y? cuz hes a big draw, so dont discount lightweights as being big draws, jus cuz their lightweights. Big draws r big draws. Stop fighting it, numbers dont lie.