Essential The Official MMA Thread

[Blackking]

what are you talking about? the topic is wrestlers are favoured in american mma and miceal page isnt going to have the easy ride Master Teacher thinks he will for that very reason.The other stuff master teacher was spouting and you were agreeing to was not only baseless but had nothing to do with the original debate

maybe it was off topic, but I came into the convo in the middle of it. However, it's not baseless.

And Mr. Venom will do well. You didn't watch his last fight?... or how good of a striker he is... mma in America caters to the brawler and wrestler.. but true ma will always do well.
I don't know what he'll do on the ground if he was in the UFC. he's only 26 , he'll have to practice grappling more,,, but for now he's shown he can arm bar choke and basic sh1t. Bellator is in the US.. so far he's shown that knocking people out can work.

 

[Roman Brady]

maybe it was off topic, but I came into the convo in the middle of it. However, it's not baseless.

Its not baseless to assume that just because mma has evolved from the pre-zuffa era of fighters every1 walking now automatically can stuff a TD and sub wrestlers off their backs? okay

And Mr. Venom will do well. You didn't watch his last fight?

Actually I did and it didnt tell me anything but there are cowards in mma who shouldnt be in the cage...

or how good of a striker he is...

u could be the best striker but if you cant stuff a double leg you are cooked

mma in America caters to the brawler and wrestler..

No mma in america has a lot of brawlers but caters to wrestlers, there is a difference.

I don't know what he'll do on the ground if he was in the UFC. he's only 26 , he'll have to practice grappling more,,, but for now he's shown he can arm bar choke and basic sh1t. Bellator is in the US.. so far he's shown that knocking people out can work.

Cant believe you are actually rating bellator or his debut

 

[Blackking]

Its not baseless to assume that just because mma has evolved from the pre-zuffa era of fighters every1 walking now automatically can stuff a TD and sub wrestlers off their backs? okay
Actually I did and it didnt tell me anything but there are cowards in mma who shouldnt be in the cage... u could be the best striker but if you cant stuff a double leg you are cooked No mma in america has a lot of brawlers but caters to wrestlers, there is a difference.Cant believe you are actually rating bellator or his debut

Everything else you said was just ur opinion. but about his debut... I'm not rating it.. but clearly he's not scared, and clearing he's going to play the game by his own rules and his own skills... It's served him well so far all around the world, I think that everyone around him is pushing him to train on the ground, but he will keep hitting with those strikes and use the counters just in-case someone tried to take him down.

“I was in freestyle kickboxing. which is like point scoring so you’re in and out all the time. That’s been my style for 20 years so it’s not something I’m planning on changing,” the 26-year-old said afterward. “I’ll never change. This is me. I’m going to be winning fights like this all the time.”

btw, this dude just choked someone out like last week who tried to hit him with that take down sh1t.

 

[jackswstd]

Don't under estimate jones. His skills are unusual because people don't see those random elbows n sh1t coming.

Anyway, women competing is ill to me. I wish there were more. Carmouche is my favorite. I don't think anyone can beat that one girl whose making all the money with endorsements n sh1t; she submits everyone with the same move (and does it with the strength of a man)

Plus Demetrious Johnson (FW champ) is on that tatecarmouche ticket.. again, I'm prolly bias cuz I'm a black fighter... he's yet another black champion w a belt - so u know I'm watching.

I'm not but he won't be tossing Cain around the octagon, and most of his advantages will be negated at HW.

 

[123456789]

I think Jon and Cain are equally bad match ups for each other...Jon will still have a height and reach advantage over Cain....we know Cain can be tagged hard by straights b/c he's really aggressive, at times and kinda runs into them...and Jon, IMO, can neutralize Cain's wrestling and kickbox him to a decision...Cain would also need to look out for the chokes.



Cain is the more likely finisher in this match up but it all comes down to how heavy will Jon be @ HW and how does it affect his game: heavier-handed? slower? physically stronger? better or worse cardio? too muscular? etc.


I, honestly, still think Jon becomes hw champ at some point, but I see him being a decision guy. Depending on how much muscle he puts on for HW, he may not be able to cut down again and be great @ LHW. It may be several years before Jon goes to HW.




And I didn't see the offense in Sonnen's comments to Sage Steele but LOL@ Cari Champion getting mad when he referred to her as "little lady".

 

[Mowgli]

I think Jon and Cain are equally bad match ups for each other...Jon will still have a height and reach advantage over Cain....we know Cain can be tagged hard by straights b/c he's really aggressive, at times and kinda runs into them...and Jon, IMO, can neutralize Cain's wrestling and kickbox him to a decision...Cain would also need to look out for the chokes.



Cain is the more likely finisher in this match up but it all comes down to how heavy will Jon be @ HW and how does it affect his game: heavier-handed? slower? physically stronger? better or worse cardio? too muscular? etc.


I, honestly, still think Jon becomes hw champ at some point, but I see him being a decision guy. Depending on how much muscle he puts on for HW, he may not be able to cut down again and be great @ LHW. It may be several years before Jon goes to HW.




And I didn't see the offense in Sonnen's comments to Sage Steele but LOL@ Cari Champion getting mad when he referred to her as "little lady".

Cains cardio is his best weapon. When i saw how relentless he was against Dos Santos i was like.

 

[Change]

I was watching some pre-fight stuff and Bisping is having a pretty bad Herpe outbreak on his lips. I wonder how the commission deals with that. It's a weird situation. They're obviously going to let him fight but it's a contagious disease that is for life.

 

[puppetmaster]

Jon Jones's ability to have fun with how cats react to him at the weigh ins is admirable. Dude is having fun out there cheer or boo.


I don't wanna just completely dismiss Chael as tho his relentlessness, cardio and chin aren't something to consider in the equation but dude really is gonna end up on the rough end of a "do you remember that one time?" Moment tomorrow.


I'm still a little mad at Vitor for denying us a chance to see Anderson Forrest Griffin Bisping. Nonetheless I'm rooting for him tomorrow, I dislike Belcher a tiny bit more than I do him

Vinny was doing a little too much mean face work towards Phil, kinda makes me think he's taking it personal and will fight mad and reckless



-P-

 

[Change]

Vinny was doing a little too much mean face work towards Phil, kinda makes me think he's taking it personal and will fight mad and reckless

I think this fight is going to end up being wack. I also just saw the UFC 159 countdown and Phil Davis has to be the biggest herb on the planet. He's a bigger herb than Jon Jones and that's saying a lot.

 

[puppetmaster]

I think this fight is going to end up being wack. I also just saw the UFC 159 countdown and Phil Davis has to be the biggest herb on the planet. He's a bigger herb than Jon Jones and that's saying a lot.

It's got the makings of him vs lil Nog written all over it. Hopefully animosity will bring something out





-P-

 

[TRIPLE M]

I saw the countdown too and Phil Davis is without a doubt the biggest cornball in the UFC . He has worse sound bytes than Jon Jones

 

[Change]

It's got the makings of him vs lil Nog written all over it.

That was my first thought.

also Jones is back in the running against Phil Davis for biggest Herb... fresh from his twitter..

Spoiler

 

[FaTaL]

That was my first thought.

also Jones is back in the running against Phil Davis for biggest Herb... fresh from his twitter..

Spoiler

 

[puppetmaster]

That was my first thought.

also Jones is back in the running against Phil Davis for biggest Herb... fresh from his twitter..

Spoiler

Geez man. I'm a fan of his fighting styles but he's a weird identity conflicted dude most of the time




-P-

 

[hazardous]

If Jones wants to he can end this in round 1, but his fights have been going longer lately. I expect him to finish the job by round 3.