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do you have a fetish for seeing bald hawaiian men (on their back) getting molested or something 
Mr. Somebody
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Its not hating. Those guys just arent good enough.
Idk why people call Cain boring.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
As it should be, my only qualm would be if roy nelson wasnt given a proper ufc contract.Cuz he had no business being on TUF they just put him there so a name could take out kimbo
it is hating.. plus, the good ones, don't enter mma. MMA came from martial arts like that... but the rouge competition of MMA that created the UFC just took on Wrestling because white guys were brawling. Professional Kung Fu fighters for example don't fight for more than a few minutes - ur trained to end it very quickly.. Wresting is only better for the UFC because the fans and structure is better, if people are rolling around and trying to break out of locks n sh1t.
BJJ isn't effective just by itself. IF someone knows wing chun strikes, some other kicks, and bjj they will beast. Plus the fights would be better. Currently you one get good fights every once in a while. Jones and Silva are good because they don't usually have to use too much wrestling.
NTM, ur BJJ. I'm only learning that now because it's awesome.. but I know that with my first MA ur BJJ wouldnt' even be effective.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
Not ufc, mma and if they leave that TUF shyt alone what platform do "new recruits" have for fans to become familiar with them
ps I love the art of taunting when its done with poise and fluidity.But (sans the final kick) page looked like some monkey at the local jamboree.Ufc couldnt sign him anyway cuz I think I saw him at bellator
Mr. Somebody
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Thats on the guys who choose not to join the UFC. Its not hating if the guy you speak of, dont want to join. UFC caters to striking and wrestling because the fans boo when the fighters are on the ground too long so wrestling gets a nod because a takedown counts for alot of points. You should really study the background of alot of these fighters. They've been involved in more martial arts then you may believe. They just have to round out their skills set with grappling and im sorry but Grappling is very legit and a very dangerous skill so putting kung fu all all that other stuff over grappling and basic striking is not fair because these are just as legit as kung fu.
ur right, grappling is legit. like I said I'm learning now. I have my eye on the one gym, they are legit, but I can't go because of schedule...and out of respect for where I'm currently at. But I have my eye on them.
When I look at Anderson Silva, it's his muythai that is helping him,,, and the Bjj black belt is just another skill just in case.
What do u do if a person is keeping their distance and has practiced bjj and take down defenses, and all you've done is bjj? How do you close the gap and not get smacked up?
Who thinks that Chris Weidman can hang with Anderson Silva? When Silva is a black belt muythai and BJJ w maddd title defenses... and Weidman isn't a black belt in anything and has only a few ufc fights?
Mr. Somebody
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Its called MMA for a reason. The fighters should be well rounded. The goal is to bring the fighter into your strength. All the better if you're good at everything but every fighter has a weakness. These days in MMA you have to be good enough at everything to bring the fighter to your world. Look at Damien Maia. Hes having a resurgence with his BJJ while physically appearing
and having very suspect striking. Went the distance with Weidman and has only been Ko'd once, (by another bjj black belt). Standup specialists, HAVE to have a ground game and the reason these Wing chun, wataaaaaaaaaaa, kung fu guys get dusted is because they fight wrestlers/bjj guys and cant compete on the ground level or even at the very least, defend takedowns and get back to their feet. UFC fighters are the most well rounded fighters on the planet from a variety of martial arts background but they all understand that you cannot be a 1 dimensional fighter and compete against people who are complete. Its 2013, friend.
All fighters have a punchers chance but i believe Weidman is going to get dropped by Anderson. If he couldnt drop Damien, thers no way hes dropping Anderson. His strategy should be the lay and pray route if he hopes to win.
Not ufc, mma and if they leave that TUF shyt alone what platform do "new recruits" have for fans to become familiar with them
ps I love the art of taunting when its done with poise and fluidity.But (sans the final kick) page looked like some monkey at the local jamboree.Ufc couldnt sign him anyway cuz I think I saw him at bellator
Dude straight clowned the guy and everything he did was fluid. I seen the bellator fight he was in, oh yeah it lasted 51 secs
Page is a skilled fighter something that mma in general is lacking, all the other UFC big names came from other organizations at one point, so I don't see why Page couldn't be different.
Its called MMA for a reason. The fighters should be well rounded. The goal is to bring the fighter into your strength. All the better if you're good at everything but every fighter has a weakness. These days in MMA you have to be good enough at everything to bring the fighter to your world. Look at Damien Maia. Hes having a resurgence with his BJJ while physically appearing
Standup specialists, HAVE to have a ground game and the reason these Wing chun, wataaaaaaaaaaa, kung fu guys get dusted is because they fight wrestlers/bjj guys and cant compete on the ground level or even at the very least, defend takedowns and get back to their feet. UFC fighters are the most well rounded fighters on the planet from a variety of martial arts background but they all understand that you cannot be a 1 dimensional fighter and compete against people who are complete. Its 2013, friend.
All fighters have a punchers chance but i believe Weidman is going to get dropped by Anderson. If he couldn't drop Damien, thers no way hes dropping Anderson. His strategy should be the lay and pray route if he hopes to win.
There hasn't been any kung fu professional compete in UFC. The ones I know wouldn't get dusted. But at the same time they wouldn't compete anyway- they practice for life/death situations and street fights. competition rules are beneficial only for some.
Besides that, look at the guy u mentioned- miai.. he's good at bjj and other sh1t because he uses the principles and structures from his kungfu background... even if he's not using the moves. His striking looks suspect to me and to you - only because he's not a boxing type of person and his punches just aren't naturally powerful. On the street for all we know he might be able to seriously damage Weidman.
I believe your right about Weidman getting droped by AS though. I also feel like Dana doesn't want him to dominate as much as he is. Plus Dana, Chanellsonnon, others, all those random people, feel like Silva doesn't represent the hard core nature of the sport and is a mistake. They've referred to the best fighter on our planet as an embarrassment n things like that. On a side note, - ur right about being well rounded... that helps u adapt in every situation.. Silva low key puts that Capoeira and TKdo sh1t in his mix with BJJ.
I don't know what to make of this.... I was going to say this Canadian is scared of the goat... but when you listen to him, he makes some Very good points.
Y! SPORTS
The knee injury sidelined the champion for 19 months, and new contenders emerged in his absence.
“I need to do stuff in my division before I take (a superfight) because it has moved now,” said St-Pierre.
If he were to accept a fight with Silva at middleweight, he’d be at a considerable size disadvantage.
“Anderson Silva is very big. He’s 230 pounds. He’s a very big guy, walking around very big and I’m 190 pounds. It’s a lot of weight difference. If this fight happens one day, we’re going to have to decide what weight class and everything,” he said.
“I don’t do a lot of cutting. It would be easier for me to go fight at 155 than fighting at 185. I would be more at my weight naturally. There’s guys at 155 that walk around 190 like me,” said St-Pierre. “They think I’m big because I have a large frame, but I’m not a big guy. I’m not thick.”
Y! SPORTS
The knee injury sidelined the champion for 19 months, and new contenders emerged in his absence.
“I need to do stuff in my division before I take (a superfight) because it has moved now,” said St-Pierre.
If he were to accept a fight with Silva at middleweight, he’d be at a considerable size disadvantage.
“Anderson Silva is very big. He’s 230 pounds. He’s a very big guy, walking around very big and I’m 190 pounds. It’s a lot of weight difference. If this fight happens one day, we’re going to have to decide what weight class and everything,” he said.
“I don’t do a lot of cutting. It would be easier for me to go fight at 155 than fighting at 185. I would be more at my weight naturally. There’s guys at 155 that walk around 190 like me,” said St-Pierre. “They think I’m big because I have a large frame, but I’m not a big guy. I’m not thick.”
@houston911 So the title of this thread is going to remain mma in 2012, for infinity?
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Mr. Somebody
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Dana gives a lot of respect for Anderson Silva but not so much if hes in the ring being paid to fight and is doing silly showboating thats degrading to his opponent and has nothing to do with the fight. I think you're new to this whole thing, friend. There is no fighter in the UFC that is one discipline. They train to defend themselves against other styles so in turn they are more than whatever their strength discipline is. Its called martial Arts for a reason, friend. You start with a foundation and then you add new branches to your skillset to express your skillset.
If you know guys that do kung fu that would not get beat in the UFC please give Dana White a call. Its easy to romanticize the skillset of people who adhere to tradition but its a fault to disregard the skillset of people who showcase their skills to the world on a regular basis in a more controlled environment. If you're that good of a fighter that you cant fight unless there are no rules, how good are you really? I mean, you dont think these guys train for street fighting? Many of them have been security guards and have many publicized street fights with other fighters, strangers, multiple bouncers, etc. Imagine these fighters with no rules, friend. Just because they have to adapt to the competition doesnt mean they are programmed to fight that way in the street.
These are the best fighters in the world. In the early days of the UFC you saw more varied martial artists. These guys got weeded out because they could no longer compete, friend. Respect mixed martial arts. As someone whos put thousands of hours into the mat i believe it deserves respect. MMA is kung fu.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
that double hand movement before he would strike veered on bafoonery to me.I always thought "showboating" is to make your opponent look foolish as u clown them.It is not the "showboater" that should look the clown, which he did
how good would he be in the wrestling laden welterweight division tho?
if u dont know what his wrestling is like sl
ur roll