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MVike28
right around the ACC
I genuinely don’t get this dudes angle
So he’s not happy that women are not as money obsessed as the ones he’s accustomed to in Miami?
I remember going to Vaughn in 2011
At the plaza that had the movie theater
Everything looked brand new
MVike28
right around the ACC
And the city hasn’t upgraded their roads
2 lane traffic everywhere
Whereas Pickering minutes from GO train Lakeshore East line every 15 mins round the clock, minutes from 401, minutes from 407, all the big box stores are on Kingston 8 min drive from my place
Much more greenery, trails
I’m thankful we got out of our comfort zone and bounced from Vaughan
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I genuinely don’t get this dudes angle
So he’s not happy that women are not as money obsessed as the ones he’s accustomed to in Miami?
I think he doesn't understand how the local women work. Money in Toronto is clout/status. Same concept different currency. You know how you can be homeless couch surfer, but if you have clout in the city you'll have tons of groupies and orbiters. They will even run errands for you and let you crash at their place if they have one. Living on the poverty line but be popular in a particular circle and the roster will build itself.
From the 2021 census
The avg black man is earning like almost 20 k less than the average non black man
| Population Group | Average Earnings (CAD) |
|---|---|
| Black men – African-origin (second generation) | 51,144 |
| Black men – Caribbean-origin (second generation) | 52,804 |
| Black men – Canadian-origin (third generation or more) | 49,297 |
| Non-racialized men – second generation (age-adjusted) | 70,626 |
| Non-racialized men – third generation or more | 69,165 |
The 2021 Census data reveals that nearly 50% of Black Torontonians earn less than $40,000 annually, compared to 45.7% of the general workforce. Toronto Workforce Innovation Group -
Additionally, Black men in Toronto experience higher unemployment rates and are underrepresented in high-paying sectors such as finance and technology.
You take away the ttc and other transit groups, and city jobs where exactly do you see most black folks working?
We got alot of black brehs here who make good bread and have good jobs but just look around how many other black folks you see at your level or in yor place of business?
In my hospital network there are like 300 directors/managers and only like 6 are black, there are tons of black nurses, and tons of black porters and cleaners ut at the management level and bove miniscule, even on the corporate side very small
Givethanks
Superstar
In Ottawa you'd swear there were only non white gangs running around galavanting
These Canadian Shade room pages and mainstream News companies know not to go after the HAs
Givethanks
Superstar
It's so crazy how under represented we are in managerial roles, but I understand why it's like that. Who you know is way more important than what you know, sadly.
The other day a bunch of us were chatting about childhood, and as soon as someone brought up hockey you can feel the shift.
I used to think only black people all knew each other in the city, but I realized it's the same with everyone else. Everytime my white coworkers say they did xyz on the weekend, someone from our job is always there.
My team is currently like 80% Indian/Arab because they all hire each other. I'd like to get my boys put on but non of them have an engineering background and fell for the trap of not caring about education. Where most of the Indians/Arabs here have a master's or working their way to one.
yeah it's a huge challenge. Toronto(Ontario) brags about inclusivity but it's extremely economically racist against black population. Smile in your face, wont pay you much, leave you on yearly renewable contracts
It's so crazy how under represented we are in managerial roles, but I understand why it's like that. Who you know is way more important than what you know, sadly.
The other day a bunch of us were chatting about childhood, and as soon as someone brought up hockey you can feel the shift.
I used to think only black people all knew each other in the city, but I realized it's the same with everyone else. Everytime my white coworkers say they did xyz on the weekend, someone from our job is always there.
My team is currently like 80% Indian/Arab because they all hire each other. I'd like to get my boys put on but non of them have an engineering background and fell for the trap of not caring about education. Where most of the Indians/Arabs here have a master's or working their way to one.
I literally started at the bottom first job where I'm at I was making like 21 a hour after leaving my former company where everyone was being let go in 2015 . Attended some workshop at the hospital that a director was running and it was interesting so I talked to him and then a positioned opened up under him and I got it , ended up getting hired on his team in 2017 and went to 30 a hour. The role I'm in now opened up in 2019 and I thought I had it but the hiring manager at the time hired this other dude. I went back to school for some certs and then that guy left during covid and he recommended me to his Director. I applied and get this I was the only person to apply for that job. I went into the interview and the director is like ah i'm not going to waste my time during the interview. I was hoping no one else applied and no one did so I just have a feeling about you and hired me. God is good
Now I'm on the sunshine list and that same person who hired me is now a VP and I report straight to him and I've prob been in the office like 10 times since march 2020
I think this is a thing that many don't talk about. THe networks that is established by other cultures allows them to dominate industries. Others know how to stay on code and mainly f with their own. It's why management and higher positions will have a lot of non-black people.It's so crazy how under represented we are in managerial roles, but I understand why it's like that. Who you know is way more important than what you know, sadly.
The other day a bunch of us were chatting about childhood, and as soon as someone brought up hockey you can feel the shift.
I used to think only black people all knew each other in the city, but I realized it's the same with everyone else. Everytime my white coworkers say they did xyz on the weekend, someone from our job is always there.
My team is currently like 80% Indian/Arab because they all hire each other. I'd like to get my boys put on but non of them have an engineering background and fell for the trap of not caring about education. Where most of the Indians/Arabs here have a master's or working their way to one.
I think there's also factors in how our government is set up. Canada is a risk averse country, so provincial and federal government doesn't really provide opportunities to grow. It's why we're in the mess we're in and don't really have many industries that are above developed countries. You can't tell me the talent in Canada can't establish companies that are a force globally. With the talent we develop we should have more success stories than blackberry and shopify when talking about companies outside of natural resources and financial institutions.
Getting a bit off topic there, but investment money isn't really going to black people which is why it's hard to establish a powerful network. Other cultures are getting those funds and many stay on code in doing business within community which is why they were able to level up. It's sad we didn't really have that opportunity when competition was less fierce but it def seems much harder today to establish that kind of network.
Back in the day you had nortel and blackberry
its really only shopify if not counting banks and brookfield
Westons consider themselves british and so does the woodbridge (thomson family)
Yeah, it really doesn't make sense when you think about it. We have like 5+ universities that are considered world class when it comes to education. However, due to our system and attitude the talent just leave rather than build here. I don't blame them when you look at the wage difference. You can't tell me people that studied at UofT, Waterloo, Mcgill, UBC, and other prestigious schools doesn't have the drive to build up in Canada. Our government not providing the opportunities is why we're lagging. Now, if people from these schools aren't getting the investment, then it's grim for us to get the funds to build our network.
I felt as a country we had many opportunties to to establish ourselves as a powerhouse. The major issue is from top to bottom our system just doesn't want to nurture talent. This issue affects black people because if we're not doing business within our own community, then we can't expect to have an established network if government doesn't inject resoruces to build up. With the growth of black people in the GTA remaining flat and others growing it's going to be much harder to establish that network. We really neeed to do that decades ago.
Stagnation of wages also doesn't help
100,000 cdn is only 73,000 usd
but that 73,000 usd you can buy a house in most us cities and you prob have ajob with that 73,000 that gives oyu health insurance
100,000 cdn you can qualify for a house in a place like pembroke or timmins
