The plight of the black creative (I've been meaning to make this thread for a while)...

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@OG_StankBrefs your comment in @Theraflu 's thread prompted me to create this thread. I've been holding off on this for a while cause I didn't think it would be appreciated or gain the right audience...but to hell with it. I've been meaning to discuss this with all of the intelligent folks on the Coli for a while.\

I've been interested in the creative arts for as long as I can remember. Whether it was drawing comics, doing graffiti, making music, designing t-shirt graphics, or just writing some little poems in a notepad. There were many people in my life that encouraged me to pursue some sort of career in the creative field, and seeing that it was one of my passions (and still is) I decided to stick with it.

Sticking with it has been the hardest thing. And I'll tell you why.

In my experiences in the art/music world (from going to art galleries/shows/openings to actually being a participant in these events whether as an artist performing or showcasing works in these events) the fact of being a black person in this world still stands: WE ARE CRIMINALLY UNDERREPRESENTED.

I figured that with how race concious and sensitive many fields are, that the art world would be more open minded and "accepting" to an extent. But, sometimes I feel like this is yet another good ol' boys (and girls) club. Complete with nepotism, culture vulturing, kickbacks, and other shortcuts to fame and notoriety.

This also ties in with what I do musically (which could be it's own thread, so I'll just abbreviate my main points). I feel like with black people that make music outside of Hip-Hop/R&B...they are doomed to be a "niche" or unseen in general.

For years, my man frustration from making music and trying to get it heard was where I stood in this music world as a black man that decidedly does "electronica". Especially in the current frame of American life where hip-hop and R&B is the definitive "voice" of the black community. I'm pretty sure a good amount of black people that dared to love music outside of these got the same comments by their peers or something along those lines...

"You ain't black:"
"why you listening to this whiteboy stuff?"


I will admit, I felt vexed amongst my people when met with these statement. For years, I thought that somehow we as a people we're lacking of a perspective that could se the beauty of these musics/arts and that we just didn't have the foresight or knowledge of these to do so. The older I got, I realized this wasn't the case.

I guess this is why I kind of felt angry towards the state of hip-hop and R&B...like I was pigeonholed to do this or just never get any sort of attention towards my music and my art that I have been doing for 17 years.

I remember DJing events where there were a significant amount of black people in attendance, playing house music, and seeing those people clear the room in record time. It was disheartening.

I also remember DJing events where I was the only person of color on the bill. And wondering...is this my fate doing this music to play for predominantly white audiences? Especially when I'm trying to create a diverse atmosphere and fanbase.

Needless to say...from doing this for so long, we have it much harder to make a name for ourselves in this game than anybody else. But it shouldn't be this way.
 

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right now...this is where my photography is...nothing but cellphone pics and I haven't updated it in a while...

http://temisanadoki.tumblr.com

I focus on my music at the moment and this is my bandcamp.

http://allinthefamilyrecords.bandcamp.com

And this is my soundcloud

http://soundcloud.com/whoistemisanadoki
People are gonna be haters. You can't let someone determine what YOU should do. If you have Netflix check out drew struzans documentary. It's one of my fav.
 

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I'm sorry, but I don't have anything to say that will help.


Except maybe this - you just have to please yourself, mayne.
If you're proud of what you are creating, take solace in that.
I mean - you never know who's gonna like your work, so you
shouldn't just base your worth on that.
 
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*plays worlds smallest violin*

This ain't some "woe is me" shyt...these are acute observations and I wanted to have a think tank and a compendium of like minded people commenting on it. But then again, people like you just want to say whatever you want to say for daps and rep...

If you're not going to do that...please don't comment cause this is the epitome of ignorant. I'm pretty sure you're better than this...
 
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We are underrepresented in the arts because the white man has no real idea of what it means to be black. This is why blacks in movies and in theatrical plays are soulless caricatures that have no authenticity. And the only way to combat that is for more black writers and directors to produce their own movies and plays. As much as I dislike his movies, I will give Tyler perry credit for being a pioneer in that regard. It's unfortunate that most of his movies are terrible, which might be because he's not exactly in tune with the black experience. :mjpls:
 

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Breh,

As a Black filmmaker I certainly see your point. I'm tired of us having to make Music/film/art that is pigeonholed into some sort of accepted "authentic black experience". It pisses me off that Wes Anderson or Spike Jones can make any artsy/quirky movie about all kinds of unique people/places/situations and find an audience.

Yet the moment a black person tries to make a movie like that they get hit with a :dahell: by not only white people but also black people as well.

It seems every black movie is a hood movie, romantic comedy, or comedy.
 

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Boo fukking ho. Being black didn't stop Ray Charles.

Why are people not getting what I have to say? Why do you think this is the point of my write up? You're being ignorant too. And I'm not afraid to call you out on it cause I usually support your posts. This is unbecoming and I can tell the point is being diluted by those that choose what they want to see and not take in the sum of the whole parts.

This is why I didn't even want to get into this conversation on here cause I know for as many of you want to pose as intellectuals...you just don't get it.

This goes beyond hip-hop and r&b...and conventional black culture. This is about the arts, creative arts, painting

I salute those that got it...and dapped me up. You get it.

If this thread is going to be consistent of comments like this...than I regret even making it.
 
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