The Problem Isn’t the Black Family; It’s the System

[number21]

So it’s still a no go bringing back dads?

This. That village garbage is basically to replace the father leading and being over the home.

Cause when you think about it, what father with sense wants random people directly involved with rearing their children.

 

[Gloxina]

Black Americans are locked out of the economic system of the US to a very large degree.

If we shared our resources by being in more marriages,
if we lived closer to family to disperse some of the child care expenses,
if we were on much better terms with our neighbors,
If we went to more black retailers as opposed to retailers owned by others
If we bought houses in black majority areas using black banks

There's definitely some economic benefit there. A lot less suffering, because our dollars aren't leaking AS FAST out of the community.

But until there is a Black Goldman Sachs, a Black NVDIA, a Black Microsoft - major economic drivers that can employ 100,000s of us in high paying jobs (and then all the downstream vendors and clients) - that affect the global economy - then we're really still in the same boat, just not as leaky.

IMO, when this conversation comes up every week - cats focus on such small little details

• Don't mess with girls with nose rings
• Young guys should get into the trades or the military
• Drink more water, eat less sugar

The big picture is that Black people on a global stage should control 15-20% of the global economy, AT LEAST.

Black People don't even control hip hop.

Even when Black people create trillion dollar intellectual property - Black people don't see the bulk of that money.....

It would be nice if Black Men would humble themselves and Black Women would submit, and everything was Brand Nubian again - but that's not gonna fix the economics.

Mmhmm


The biggest issue that folks don’t touch on is the economic issue.

M O N E Y

solves most issues and we have to figure out how to improve our economic standing in this nation and on the globe.


Many of the issues we complain about are due to prolonged poverty and behaviors we developed or how we adapted to poverty, or being subject to mistreatment by other groups because of our economic standing.

 

[African Peasant]

The problem is the destruction of the black family by the system

 

[Chrishaune]

Black Americans are locked out of the economic system of the US to a very large degree.

If we shared our resources by being in more marriages,
if we lived closer to family to disperse some of the child care expenses,
if we were on much better terms with our neighbors,
If we went to more black retailers as opposed to retailers owned by others
If we bought houses in black majority areas using black banks

There's definitely some economic benefit there. A lot less suffering, because our dollars aren't leaking AS FAST out of the community.

But until there is a Black Goldman Sachs, a Black NVDIA, a Black Microsoft - major economic drivers that can employ 100,000s of us in high paying jobs (and then all the downstream vendors and clients) - that affect the global economy - then we're really still in the same boat, just not as leaky.

IMO, when this conversation comes up every week - cats focus on such small little details

• Don't mess with girls with nose rings
• Young guys should get into the trades or the military
• Drink more water, eat less sugar

The big picture is that Black people on a global stage should control 15-20% of the global economy, AT LEAST.

Black People don't even control hip hop.

Even when Black people create trillion dollar intellectual property - Black people don't see the bulk of that money.....

It would be nice if Black Men would humble themselves and Black Women would submit, and everything was Brand Nubian again - but that's not gonna fix the economics.

The banks control everything in the West. You have to separate from the Euro controlled central banking systems to be able to have a self sustainable community that can't be controlled by the euros and world government.

Be prepared for war, because they are definitely going to try to destroy you.

 

[Dameon Farrow]

We do, but we need to do more business amongst ourselves and put that family dynamic to use the way others do. Pooling resources to help each other, buying homes together…we have to get back to educating ourselves and setting community standards.
How we view relationships and family creation…that alone would be a big deal. And it seems like things are slowly moving in a better direction with teen pregnancy down, etc.


Looove your comment! I was literally in the middle of writing my response above and never pressed “post”. Lol We’re on the same page.

Yep. The solutions are simple enough on paper.

SSI check not enough for grandma to pay for rent/groceries? She moves in with one of her kids. Now they can pool money together to buy groceries and she can even keep some cash in her pocket.

But now we all gotta live under one roof.

Of course if you're childless(a growing understable trend) there is no reason you shouldn't be stashing away a nest egg even if it's only a little at a time. Childless individuals can more easily go without some things.

 

[WIA20XX]

Many of the issues we complain about are due to prolonged poverty and behaviors we developed or how we adapted to poverty, or being subject to mistreatment by other groups because of our economic standing.

Breaking those "generational curses" is very important.

As a community, the attacks come from within and without.
As individuals, the attacks are both internal and external.

But just looking around - both the internal and external attacks cause more damage to us as individuals and as a community - than they do to others. Even poor whites in the worst of situations, somehow fair better than poor Black people....smh.

Understanding the disparate and systematic negative effects, imo, we need to craft solutions that are exponential in the positive direction.

A part of that is buildilng stronger male-female relationships, stronger family bonds, and stronger community bonds. Maybe a lot of us gotta hold our nose and go back to church, or at least show up to the fish fry and fellowship.

But the overarching problem is still the economics - and getting control of those economics in house.

 

[Gloxina]

So it’s still a no go bringing back dads?

Of course we need dads!

Multiple families = COMMUNITY

No one is saying we don’t need dads. We need a community full of dads. That’s the point.

Men are the line of defense and are supposed to regulate. Multiple men leading their families within the community.

 

[cheek100]

Of course we need dads!

Multiple families = COMMUNITY

No one is saying we don’t need dads. We need a community full of dads. That’s the point.

Men are the line of defense and are supposed to regulate. Multiple men leading their families within the community.

 

[Amo Husserl]

"It changed how this country talked about us forever."

Fathers need to come back to the homes, the family is an institution within a larger system.
She conveniently skipped over those welfare rules that ran fathers out the homes in the late 60s and 70s.
And conveniently left out the Nixon administration being the first administration attacking Civil Rights gains.
Nixon led to Ford, Reagan picked it back up after Carter. How she jump from 1965 to 1981?
She framin' this OD suspect.

 

[Ahmen]

So it’s still a no go bringing back dads?

Everyone wants to ignore the obvious.

 

[Gloxina]

Everyone wants to ignore the obvious.

No one is ignoring the obvious.


The point is Black men were economically disenfranchised by this system in a way that no other racial group has experienced.

YES we need dads in the home.


We need women pairing up with economically viable men. That leads more stable, safer COMMUNITIES.



I said it before. If every young Black man from 18-25 who is not in school got a damn CDL/worked for UPS/FedEx that would transform the community in less than 1 generation. The average salary of Black men would jump instantly. Plumbers, electricians, etc.

Yes we need dads in the home. We need women to be impregnated by the right men and we need dads who are raising young men to grow into those men.

 

[Ohene]

No one is ignoring the obvious.


The point is Black men were economically disenfranchised by this system in a way that no other racial group has experienced.

YES we need dads in the home.


We need women pairing up with economically viable men. That leads more stable, safer COMMUNITIES.



I said it before. If every young Black man from 18-25 who is not in school got a damn CDL/worked for UPS/FedEx that would transform the community in less than 1 generation. The average salary of Black men would jump instantly. Plumbers, electricians, etc.

Yes we need dads in the home. We need women to be impregnated by the right men and we need dads who are raising young men to grow into those men.

no it wouldnt
because women would not choose those men over the rappers, scammers, drug dealers and hood rich dudes
at the end of the day, the woman chooses who she wants to be (or not be via abortion) the father of her kids

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

no it wouldnt
because women would not choose those men over the rappers, scammers, drug dealers and hood rich dudes
at the end of the day, the woman chooses who she wants to be (or not be via abortion) the father of her kids

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

A closely connected extended family. A true village.

Can you describe what you mean?

Are you saying that black people currently don't have extended families?

Been saying this for years

The family system you people are asking about are basically clans/figureheads/kindreds

@Nkrumah Was Right the umunna/village system is that not what they are basically describing?

 

[Gloxina]

Even when I literally say what we need, he says that shyt.


That’s akin to me saying that Black men don’t want to be plumbers, electricians or truckers because they’d rather try to be rappers, athletes, scammers, etc.