The problem with NY rappers and NY hip hop is...

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:what: him gettin killed ain't have nuthing to do with him being a rapper tho.... All the jackboys gotta stop jackin so the NY rap scene can come back? U reachin...Max either guilty or got a bad rap but how's that the NY rap scenes fault?


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In regards to Max b, im talking about how Jim Jones blackballed him.
 

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In regards to Max b, im talking about how Jim Jones blackballed him.

U don't think any nikka stuntin that night wrong place wrong time coulda got robbed? Far as max b I didn't know jim did that,I believe in blackballing but at the point they wuz beefing did jim jones have power to blackball him from shyt? Or wuz it the fact he had a pending murder case that maybe caused deals to not be offered? Dude wuz pretty local in the grand scheme,ain't like he had 2 chainz buzz
 

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U don't think any nikka stuntin that night wrong place wrong time coulda got robbed? Far as max b I didn't know jim did that,I believe in blackballing but at the point they wuz beefing did jim jones have power to blackball him from shyt? Or wuz it the fact he had a pending murder case that maybe caused deals to not be offered? Dude wuz pretty local in the grand scheme,ain't like he had 2 chainz buzz


Once again in regards to the Stack situation, that refers to the point of this thread.



But in regards to Max B, he signed a contract with Jim once he got out of jail. Jimmy wouldnt let him go to do his own thang. Which is the reason of the whole beef between the two. Also Jim called into all the NY stations demanding that they dont bump his music.
 

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They can get along all they want but if the music being produced continues to be sub par then nothing is going to change
 

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totally agree with op but gotta understand that the life ****** live streets is eat or be eatin and when you put them in the music biz same type of ****** you get same type of mentallity.Plus in NY we care bout being the best so its comp in order for you to make the most paper you have to have the best product and same thing in the music biz and i think thats what it was.Real talk thugh if NY was to put together a movement back then with each i dont think alot of this bs rap would be around now real talk.


Labels are not gonna get behind NY rappers. The people want ignorant and catchy music now.
 

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i fux with the french and the cokeboyz heavy, but i never thought i'd see the day that he'd be the brightest star out of the new crop of NY ni99az. Max b. i could understand but french?? stacks and max should be carryin the cross 4 empire ni99az right now, french with his hookz,beat selection, and song makin ability leaves alot 2 be desired honestly. i got every official tape french ever did but when i listen 2 stackz or max theres just no comparison, the talent gap is tremendous. imagine stackz or max on this current production out now. im not even goin 2 drag the ol headz in {nas,jay,wu, etc.} because it would be slaughter as far as this new crop. if ny ninjaz could somehow incorporate raw lyrics with some what of an updated sound without sacrificin teir aura/swag{stackz wuz the last 2 do so imo} ny would be golden. unfortunately alotta these ninjaz either spit raw, have sick beatz, catchy hookz, or have "swag". its hard 2 find a ninja that encompasses all of these thingz up here.....:manny:
 

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Labels are not gonna get behind NY rappers. The people want ignorant and catchy music now.

The old NY rappers you mean. Labels cleaned house with most of them years ago.
 

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the good ones are old and the new ones aren't that good.

But the labels look at $$$ bottom line. The old rappers have a hard time connecting to the youth. Unless you Jay or Nas.
 

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simply put, nikkaz just need 2 make ill music and put the egos on the backburner, ni99az talkin bout bring ny back, fukk that , bring it forward...........stop tryna sound like these 90's n99az. another thing 2 is ni99az dont take 2 well with experimental music like that up here unless it's fire outta the gate,anything else n u gettin dubbed a weirdo
 

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simply put, nikkaz just need 2 make ill music and put the egos on the backburner, ni99az talkin bout bring ny back, fukk that , bring it forward...........stop tryna sound like these 90's n99az. another thing 2 is ni99az dont take 2 well with experimental music like that up here unless it's fire outta the gate,anything else n u gettin dubbed a weirdo


4sho the city pretty much need a Wiz Khalifa/Drake version of Max B


and a group of dope street oriented swagged out spitta version of Odd Future.
 
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No the true problem with NY and NY hip hop is the fact that its too small in size and diversity compared to the 90s. Hip Hop was the size of Texas in the 90s and is now the size of Manhattan. Less flavors popping up made it wack.
 
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