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A Hillary Clinton supporter wears a donkey hat with a Hillary doll on Day 3 of the Democratic National Convention at the Wells Fargo Center, July 27, 2016, in Philadelphia. Timothy A. Clary/AFP via Getty Images

The Democratic Party has spent most of the past decade deciding to lose.


Or so argues a new report from Welcome PAC, an organization that backs center-left candidates, so as to build “a big-tent Democratic Party.”
It is no secret that the Democrats are in a sorry state. They’ve lost to an exceptionally unpopular Republican presidential nominee twice in the last nine years. They have long odds of regaining control of the Senate next year and aren’t even certain to retake the House of Representatives. They’re historically unpopular, having lost ground with much of the party’s traditional base — including voters who are working class, people of color, young, or all of the above.

To determine how this happened, Welcome’s Simon Bazelon conducted six months of polling with nearly half a million voters, examined the results of hundreds of recent elections, analyzed shifts in the Democratic Party’s legislative priorities, and crunched various other data points. In so doing, Bazelon produced a rigorous and thorough accounting of what the centrist organization already knew: The Democratic Party has veered too far left, effectively choosing to prioritize progressive orthodoxy over electoral success.

Welcome’s report has already resonated with many of the Democratic Party’s leadership. And if Bazelon’s analysis proves persuasive to Democratic insiders, it could shape the trajectory of the party’s 2028 presidential primary — and thus, the future of American democracy.
To see how well that analysis stands up to scrutiny, I spoke with Bazelon about various progressive objections to his arguments. Our conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

Give me the short version of your story: How did Democrats end up in their present state?

Since Barack Obama won reelection in 2012, the Democratic Party has undergone two really major shifts. First, we have shifted our priorities, focusing less on kitchen table economic issues and more on issues that are less concrete and more abstract to voters: climate change, democracy, abortion, and other identity and cultural issues.

Meanwhile, the Democratic Party became a lot more left-wing than it used to be across the board. In 2013, 24 percent of Democrats in Congress co-sponsored Medicare-for-all. In 2023, that was 47 percent. In 2013, 41 percent of Democrats in Congress co-sponsored an assault weapons ban. Now, it’s 88 percent. Only 1 percent co-sponsored a reparations study bill in 2013:sas1:. Now, that’s a majority. And I think these two shifts are primarily responsible for the situation that Democrats are in today.

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the party's image is in the trash. they went from "The Democrats :obama:" to "The Democrats :dame:"

let's be honest, what comes to the average American's mind, when they hear the word "liberal"? a bunch of fat white women and purple haired fakkits, yelling about trannies, illegal immigrants, and Palestine, and climate change. and all of that stuff is fine; it's just not a winning recipe outside of dark blue areas :mjlol:

Democrats will always control the coastal enclaves, but i'm starting to give up hope of them winning the electoral college again. when they redo the census in 2030, Dems lose a ton of Electoral votes, because people are fleeing these awful cost of living places like CA and NY :snoop:
 
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the Dems' image is in the trash :yeshrug:

let's be honest, what comes to the average American's mind, when they hear the word "liberal"? some purple haired fakkit yelling about trannies, illegal immigrants, and Palestine, and climate change. it's just not a winning recipe outside of dark blue areas

Democrats will always control the coastal enclaves, but i'm starting to give up hope of them winning the electoral college again. when they redo the census in 2030, Dems lose a ton of Electoral votes, because people are fleeing these awful cost of living places like CA and NY :snoop:
Their weird fixation on open borders and illegal immigration was the beginning of the end. When Biden let the border spiral out of control and Texas started busing migrants to Blue states. I knew they we're toast and wouldn't recover before the Election.
 

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When Biden let the border spiral out of control and Texas started busing migrants to Blue states
easily the best political chess move i've ever seen

these idiots like AOC are always yelling at us to open the border, and then new york can't even handle 4 or 5 busloads without begging for money, proving that these people who just show up at the border are a massive burden? so fukking embarrassing :snoop:
 

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easily the best political chess move i've ever seen

these idiots like AOC are always yelling at us to open the border, and then new york can't even handle 4 or 5 busloads without begging for money, proving that these people who just show up at the border are a massive burden? so fukking embarrassing :snoop:
It's like nobody in the Democrat party thinks of the consequences to try hard shyt like this. What if Republicans call your bluff and send you all the migrants you keep caping for?
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:patrice: If a half dead Joe Biden hadn't won the presidency in 2020 I'd be willing to concede a lot more of these points. I don't think it's as much about policy as it is about the candidate. Hillary was unprepared for Trump's trolling and got mopped. Joe was a brand name and Trump couldn't rattle him and Trump lost. To me it's that simple. Having a bunch of centrists hire a guy to go out and do a bunch of polls in order to find EXACTLY everything they already believe doesn't sway me. You trying to convince me that Dems are losing because more of them are voting for Medicare for all than they did 12 years ago? That's asinine. The Dems have flaws but in my opinion the right candidate with the right messaging trumps Trump and his brand of politics.
 
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In reality it's that voters have become more stupid.

This article suggests that the only change happening is amongst the politicians themselves, when in all actuality - voters are becoming more and more idiotic, susceptible to false promises, xenophobic, and prone to living vicariously through their chosen political avatar.

Democrats going further left is what is supposed to happen - otherwise it's maintaining the status quo. We are supposed to PROGRESS as a nation, socially, economically and ideologically. If we stay stagnant, then that's when it feels like nothing is being done (I.E. Joe Biden), when he actually did great considering the most important metrics to measure a country.

Blaming the politicians for going deeper into their 'bag' is not the answer. The lack of addressing the brain rot of society at large, the tendency of algorithms to ensnare young voters and reinforce the older dumbfukks, the simple messaging of the Republican party and the economic angst growing within our citizens due to income inequality is more apt than what I read in the first post.

If the income inequality issue singularly was fixed or on the right track while Biden was in power, democrats would've won the last election.

But on this, I'd blame the voters still for picking a corporate Democrat instead of someone like Bernie Sanders or Marianne Williamson (albeit a very low chance of winning). Voters are dumb and often vote against their own self interest due to fear, insecurity, anger, ignorance, jealousy and envy.
 

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:patrice: If a half dead Joe Biden hadn't won the presidency in 2020 I'd be willing to concede a lot more of these points.
that's the problem. biden might have been the last of a generation, of guys who could win a democratic primary, but then be taken seriously by the country and win the actual election

we'll see how 2028 shakes out, but i'm not getting my hopes up. Newsom's the frontrunner for now, and while he's a good politician, the amount of california nonsense and weird fakkitry he'll be expected to defend from the left is :snoop:
 
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