It's a lot of bullshyt and dikk riding in those posts 
The Real Story of N.W.A.? More info about members/ what caused the split
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TMNT4000
Superstar
This muthafukka all ready lost points with the Ice Cube hate, comparing Dre and Cube relationship as a father and son shyt and downplaying Cube's important's to the group.
Also trying to make Jerry Heller completely innocent the whole N.W.A./Ruthless era.
Who the fukk is this guy for trying to think his shyt is 100% true?
Also trying to make Jerry Heller completely innocent the whole N.W.A./Ruthless era.
Who the fukk is this guy for trying to think his shyt is 100% true?
Wait, his a cac?This cac must still be mad at cube for his Jewish comments
Yea, that's why I said Jerry Heller technically didn't do anything wrong... from the sound of things it was the 1980's version of a 360 deal. But the issue that made things shady was him discouraging Cube and others not to have outside representation to verify the contracts. Jerry Heller knew what he was trying to do and if you have more than ONE individual complaining about the same thing, from Cube, to Dre, to eventually Eazy and everyone else that were involved...then call a spade a spade. Jerry was doing some snake shyt. That said, that's how the music business ran. In Jerry's eyes he did no wrong and by those standards back then he was right...
Needless to say, Tomica Wright was worse.... but that's a whole 'nother story.
spliz
SplizThaDon
Tomika was a scandalous ass bytch. This movie got people thinkin she was some ride or die who saved Eazy. I keep sayin this. The movie was dope as fukk as a movie. But once NWA broke up the movie went in the realm of complete ducktales. It kinda soured things for me and u got people who never even fukked wit NWA or none of these artists arguing wit me for callin the shyt out. That's the danger of these types of films. People who don't know shyt. Watch the movie and think they know everything and/or act like they was fans from the jump. nikkas really think Eazy was broke cause of this shyt and I can't rock wit that.
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
B!tch don't get all emotional on me now. You started with the son talk so let's play. Matter of fact just stfu and leave this discussion for grown folks. You not saying a damn thing. 
EzekelRAGE
Superstar
The guy is black I think. Believe I skimmed a photo where he blocked his face out and he was next to some woman old lady. Also, I don't think he really hates Cube, think you guys may be over exaggerating that part. Maybe instead of son "lil homie" wouldve been better? He is a self admitted Pac dikk rider though. I was going thru his posts and he actually had a thing about the whole Friday/Chris Tucker thing. I'll see if I can find it. But it goes it was down to Chris Rock, Tucker, and Tommy Davidson. They didn't want Rock because of the whole CB4 thing and he cost too much. Tommy cost a bunch and was also on drugs so was bad investment. Chris was decent and cheap, because at the time, he didnt have any bargaining chips. He also stated in the post that Tucker wants a lot more money this go round for another Friday. With the success of other past movies, Rush Hour series etc, he feels he is worth a lot more.
HBD to a legend. Arguably one of the four faces that belongs on Rap's Mount Rushmore. Part of the reason he is a legend is because of three things. One, he will always capitalize on your mistakes. You fumble, he will scoop it up and score. Another reason is he listens INTENTLY. The third reason is, you can't be an effective leader giving orders if you in turn cannot take orders as well. Aug. 14th will add another notch already to his vast legendary catalog.
Post on California Love
Most HOF worthy songs don't take a linear path from the pen, to the studio, to the booth, and then wind up with the listeners. ESPECIALLY when you have Dr. Dre at the helm of the controls. Dre is a perfectionist and then some. You might not be able to tell because of his output as of late but he is still the greatest to ever do it. More stars, superstars, and super records have come from the G.OA.T. Dre around than anyone else period. Dre might take months to a year trying to perfect a sound which becomes frustrating to everyone involved. When Deathrow Records first began, one of the few that was supposed to come out from under its umbrella was the once popular Rap artist and DMX arch nemesis, K-Solo. Solo was the first artist the beat that became "California Love" was for. He supposedly recorded vocals to it as well. Then when Solo did not work out, the beat was earmarked for Dr. Dre and Ice Cube's joint album, "Helter Skelter". They were each given a $1 million dollar advance to record the album but two things happened one of which I posted about previously which had Cube staying away from the studio because another artist was looking for him. HAHAHAHAHA( I may explain the other after the movie comes out). Dre then recorded 3 verses for himself and Intended the song to be his LEAD single for the, "Chronic 2". But when PAC got out of jail and couple that with Dre's minimal beat making at the time, the song was "given" to PAC because he needed a "Dre track" for "All Eyez On Me". The song went on to become an anthem and the rest is history...
HBD to a legend. Arguably one of the four faces that belongs on Rap's Mount Rushmore. Part of the reason he is a legend is because of three things. One, he will always capitalize on your mistakes. You fumble, he will scoop it up and score. Another reason is he listens INTENTLY. The third reason is, you can't be an effective leader giving orders if you in turn cannot take orders as well. Aug. 14th will add another notch already to his vast legendary catalog.
Post on California Love
Most HOF worthy songs don't take a linear path from the pen, to the studio, to the booth, and then wind up with the listeners. ESPECIALLY when you have Dr. Dre at the helm of the controls. Dre is a perfectionist and then some. You might not be able to tell because of his output as of late but he is still the greatest to ever do it. More stars, superstars, and super records have come from the G.OA.T. Dre around than anyone else period. Dre might take months to a year trying to perfect a sound which becomes frustrating to everyone involved. When Deathrow Records first began, one of the few that was supposed to come out from under its umbrella was the once popular Rap artist and DMX arch nemesis, K-Solo. Solo was the first artist the beat that became "California Love" was for. He supposedly recorded vocals to it as well. Then when Solo did not work out, the beat was earmarked for Dr. Dre and Ice Cube's joint album, "Helter Skelter". They were each given a $1 million dollar advance to record the album but two things happened one of which I posted about previously which had Cube staying away from the studio because another artist was looking for him. HAHAHAHAHA( I may explain the other after the movie comes out). Dre then recorded 3 verses for himself and Intended the song to be his LEAD single for the, "Chronic 2". But when PAC got out of jail and couple that with Dre's minimal beat making at the time, the song was "given" to PAC because he needed a "Dre track" for "All Eyez On Me". The song went on to become an anthem and the rest is history...
spliz
SplizThaDon
Emotional? nikka I'm from NY "son" is in my vocabulary. I'm a vet on this shyt nikka I can join any discussion I damn well please.
eastside313
Superstar
The way he propping up jerry heller he gotta be a cacThis muthafukka all ready lost points with the Ice Cube hate, comparing Dre and Cube relationship as a father and son shyt and downplaying Cube's important's to the group.
Also trying to make Jerry Heller completely innocent the whole N.W.A./Ruthless era.
Who the fukk is this guy for trying to think his shyt is 100% true?
Wait, his a cac?
I only read a few
But as a Inglewood native what he said about ice t and w.c. is so true...
But as a Inglewood native what he said about ice t and w.c. is so true...
EzekelRAGE
Superstar
Found the Friday post.
Both Chris Rock and Tommy Davidson were up against Chris Tucker for the role of "Smokey" in the cult classic film, "Friday". The producers went with Chris Tucker as a result of Chris Rock being a little too New York-ish and coming off of the movie, CB4, where he indirectly played a parody of "Friday"'s other star and producer, Ice Cube. Tommy Davidson had long been deemed unreliable on some Hollywood circles due to his personal problems that saw him sporadically appear on the last few seasons of, "In Living Color". His name in Hollywood was mud until he begged his former co-star, Jim Carrey, into giving him a part in, Ace Ventura 2. But the most important reason Chris Tucker got the role was he at the time was CHEAP. Tucker had no cache in which to bargain against in Hollywood so they got him on scale pay like every other actor that appeared on the film which had a $3.5 million dollar budget. But don't hold your breath on "Friday 4" because Chris is looking for a pay day as a result of IRS trouble and the fact that although he was the star of the first and the engine that drove it to being a hit, he saw no dollars on the back end and others reaped all the financial windfall.
Another post about why Chris possibly stopped getting roles.
Chris Tucker for a millisecond in time was the highest paid actor in Hollywood. This is part of the reason, as I've detailed in previous posts, why he never did another 'Friday' picture. With the tile of "Highest Paid" comes a heavy burden especially as an African American in Hollywood. Having to navigate the treacherous waters of Tinseltown where every move can be your last is tough. As a way to control his own destiny, Chris started doing stand up again. So when Quentin Tarantino, fan of all thing Black (lol), and his boss, movie mogul Harvey Weinstein approached Chris about doing a stand up film a lá "RAW", with Quentin directing, they offered Chris a 50/50 split of the profits. Chris knowing how stardom and more importantly financial bargaining position is fleeting for African Americans in Hollywood, Chris shot back with a 90/10 counter offer. With Chris receiving the lion's share. Needless to say no go. So fast forward and you haven't seen Chris on the silver screen till just recently in a co star capacity in the "Silver Linings Handbook", coupled with SERIOUS IRS problems and the shame of having to come back to work for/with Ice Cube in a new 'Friday' movie. Bottom line is, be careful when you turn down Harvey because he might make you an offer you might not be able to refuse.
Also and whether the guy is black or not, he is black.
Before all the Hollywood bars and clubs went corporate and became self important, you could go anywhere, sit down and have a good time, and meet the strangest/most interesting people ever. The same night I saw Quentin Tarantino with the RZA and Q comes out with, "What's up My N==a?", also at the same bar was noted but troubled actor Tom Sizemore. When Quentin's convo was peppered with, "N==a this... N==a that.. Jigga what? Jigga who?" and the RZA didn't flinch I said to myself this must be the true Tarantino. So Sizemore either to impress the noted director or I'm thinking to show off and show how "down" he is with Me and RZA, the only two Black guys in the place, goes into Jimmy from Hollywood Shuffle mode. (If you haven't seen Robert Townsend's classic 'Hollywood Shuffle' go rent or download it now....hilarious) Sizemore goes into this EXTRA BLACK mode. So Black that he becomes a mixture of Shaft, Superfly, and 'All Gold Everything'. Super N==a so to speak. He's extra jive talking so much that I'm looking for Ashton Kutcher at this point. Well low in behold, something I didn't know until it was brought to My attention by @vanity6ix that Sizemore is Black. He, I must admit justifiably so, was told by his Maternal Grandfather and Mother to cover it up to make it in Hollywood. Screen legend Ava Gardner is also rumored to be of mixed race as well and went to her grave holding her ethnicity secret so this in Hollywood is nothing new. The movie 'Pinky' is a Hollywood classic. I guess Tom's act that night was his way of letting loose. I just thought the whiskey was talking for him. Basically Tom said to the two Black guys in the bar, {Trinidad James voice}"This ain't for no F=k N==a. If you a real N==a then F=k with Me..."
Both Chris Rock and Tommy Davidson were up against Chris Tucker for the role of "Smokey" in the cult classic film, "Friday". The producers went with Chris Tucker as a result of Chris Rock being a little too New York-ish and coming off of the movie, CB4, where he indirectly played a parody of "Friday"'s other star and producer, Ice Cube. Tommy Davidson had long been deemed unreliable on some Hollywood circles due to his personal problems that saw him sporadically appear on the last few seasons of, "In Living Color". His name in Hollywood was mud until he begged his former co-star, Jim Carrey, into giving him a part in, Ace Ventura 2. But the most important reason Chris Tucker got the role was he at the time was CHEAP. Tucker had no cache in which to bargain against in Hollywood so they got him on scale pay like every other actor that appeared on the film which had a $3.5 million dollar budget. But don't hold your breath on "Friday 4" because Chris is looking for a pay day as a result of IRS trouble and the fact that although he was the star of the first and the engine that drove it to being a hit, he saw no dollars on the back end and others reaped all the financial windfall.
Another post about why Chris possibly stopped getting roles.
Chris Tucker for a millisecond in time was the highest paid actor in Hollywood. This is part of the reason, as I've detailed in previous posts, why he never did another 'Friday' picture. With the tile of "Highest Paid" comes a heavy burden especially as an African American in Hollywood. Having to navigate the treacherous waters of Tinseltown where every move can be your last is tough. As a way to control his own destiny, Chris started doing stand up again. So when Quentin Tarantino, fan of all thing Black (lol), and his boss, movie mogul Harvey Weinstein approached Chris about doing a stand up film a lá "RAW", with Quentin directing, they offered Chris a 50/50 split of the profits. Chris knowing how stardom and more importantly financial bargaining position is fleeting for African Americans in Hollywood, Chris shot back with a 90/10 counter offer. With Chris receiving the lion's share. Needless to say no go. So fast forward and you haven't seen Chris on the silver screen till just recently in a co star capacity in the "Silver Linings Handbook", coupled with SERIOUS IRS problems and the shame of having to come back to work for/with Ice Cube in a new 'Friday' movie. Bottom line is, be careful when you turn down Harvey because he might make you an offer you might not be able to refuse.
Also and whether the guy is black or not, he is black.
Before all the Hollywood bars and clubs went corporate and became self important, you could go anywhere, sit down and have a good time, and meet the strangest/most interesting people ever. The same night I saw Quentin Tarantino with the RZA and Q comes out with, "What's up My N==a?", also at the same bar was noted but troubled actor Tom Sizemore. When Quentin's convo was peppered with, "N==a this... N==a that.. Jigga what? Jigga who?" and the RZA didn't flinch I said to myself this must be the true Tarantino. So Sizemore either to impress the noted director or I'm thinking to show off and show how "down" he is with Me and RZA, the only two Black guys in the place, goes into Jimmy from Hollywood Shuffle mode. (If you haven't seen Robert Townsend's classic 'Hollywood Shuffle' go rent or download it now....hilarious) Sizemore goes into this EXTRA BLACK mode. So Black that he becomes a mixture of Shaft, Superfly, and 'All Gold Everything'. Super N==a so to speak. He's extra jive talking so much that I'm looking for Ashton Kutcher at this point. Well low in behold, something I didn't know until it was brought to My attention by @vanity6ix that Sizemore is Black. He, I must admit justifiably so, was told by his Maternal Grandfather and Mother to cover it up to make it in Hollywood. Screen legend Ava Gardner is also rumored to be of mixed race as well and went to her grave holding her ethnicity secret so this in Hollywood is nothing new. The movie 'Pinky' is a Hollywood classic. I guess Tom's act that night was his way of letting loose. I just thought the whiskey was talking for him. Basically Tom said to the two Black guys in the bar, {Trinidad James voice}"This ain't for no F=k N==a. If you a real N==a then F=k with Me..."
hold on.. did this dude really say Tom Sizemore is Black..
EzekelRAGE
Superstar
Yea, I was scracthing my head too, but apparently true. Tom Sizemore's one-man show: The secret he's been keeping from Hollywoodhold on.. did this dude really say Tom Sizemore is Black..
EzekelRAGE
Superstar
Dre/Pac
This is a captured moment of the only time they were in the studio together for 'All Eyez On Me'. The song 'California Love' was given to PAC by Suge who just had PAC add his vocals to an already completed song, as 'California...' was to be the lead single off of Dre's follow up solo album to his incomparable 'TheChronic'. In regards to their other "coloboration", "U can't C Me", Suge once again took the track from Dre and replaced Ice Cube's vocals with PAC's as this was to be the lead single off the Dre/Cube 'Helter Skelter' project on Death Row Records reuniting the two former N.W.A superstars.
More on Rakim/50/Dre thing
For Rakim's Aftermath debut, 9 original songs (complete with full verses and choruses) produced by Dr. Dre were done and "in the can" ready for mastering. Inexplicably, 2 months later Rakim and Dre had a falling out that led to Rakim getting his release from the label. All of his verses were stripped from those beats and literally 2 weeks later replaced with full verses and hooks by the then newest Aftermath signee, Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson. Two of those former Rakim tracks went on to become, If I Can't and Heat, for 50's debut, Get Rich Or Die Tryin'.
Mike/Suge
With his empire reeling as a result of the death of the Icon himself(PAC), lack of musical vision, and creditors up the arse, Suge was scrambling to find a way to put his newly minted, Tha Row Records, on top by any means necessary and the only way to do that was through good music. Unfortunately for him, ass whuppins for sport and late royalty payments kept a lot of people from working with/for him as they were scared for that to happen to them. Suge felt with proven artists in the stable like Petey Pablo, Juvenille, Kurupt, Crooked I, and Left Eye plus a burgeoning friendship with rapper on a serious upswing, T.I., could produce some good music and have him back on top. The problem was and has always been the use of intimidation as motivation. He lost a valuable piece to his empire when he tried to punk Devanté Swing in front of their mutual friend, Iron Mike Tyson. When Suge threatened Swing with one of those patented 'Row' beatings for sport for not making hit records, Tyson countered with getting up in Suge's face in defense of Swing and admonished Suge for what he felt was Suge's poor treatment of his employees. He informed Knight that a beat down of epic proportions was headed his way if he didn't back off. This in turn allowed Swing the freedom to start showing up at the studio when he wanted to eventually not at all.
This is a captured moment of the only time they were in the studio together for 'All Eyez On Me'. The song 'California Love' was given to PAC by Suge who just had PAC add his vocals to an already completed song, as 'California...' was to be the lead single off of Dre's follow up solo album to his incomparable 'TheChronic'. In regards to their other "coloboration", "U can't C Me", Suge once again took the track from Dre and replaced Ice Cube's vocals with PAC's as this was to be the lead single off the Dre/Cube 'Helter Skelter' project on Death Row Records reuniting the two former N.W.A superstars.
More on Rakim/50/Dre thing
For Rakim's Aftermath debut, 9 original songs (complete with full verses and choruses) produced by Dr. Dre were done and "in the can" ready for mastering. Inexplicably, 2 months later Rakim and Dre had a falling out that led to Rakim getting his release from the label. All of his verses were stripped from those beats and literally 2 weeks later replaced with full verses and hooks by the then newest Aftermath signee, Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson. Two of those former Rakim tracks went on to become, If I Can't and Heat, for 50's debut, Get Rich Or Die Tryin'.
Mike/Suge
With his empire reeling as a result of the death of the Icon himself(PAC), lack of musical vision, and creditors up the arse, Suge was scrambling to find a way to put his newly minted, Tha Row Records, on top by any means necessary and the only way to do that was through good music. Unfortunately for him, ass whuppins for sport and late royalty payments kept a lot of people from working with/for him as they were scared for that to happen to them. Suge felt with proven artists in the stable like Petey Pablo, Juvenille, Kurupt, Crooked I, and Left Eye plus a burgeoning friendship with rapper on a serious upswing, T.I., could produce some good music and have him back on top. The problem was and has always been the use of intimidation as motivation. He lost a valuable piece to his empire when he tried to punk Devanté Swing in front of their mutual friend, Iron Mike Tyson. When Suge threatened Swing with one of those patented 'Row' beatings for sport for not making hit records, Tyson countered with getting up in Suge's face in defense of Swing and admonished Suge for what he felt was Suge's poor treatment of his employees. He informed Knight that a beat down of epic proportions was headed his way if he didn't back off. This in turn allowed Swing the freedom to start showing up at the studio when he wanted to eventually not at all.
having one Black parent, doesnt make you Black tho..
this lok like a Black person to you..?
EzekelRAGE
Superstar
No, he doesn't look it. But I can't really say you can't be black or claim to be half black even though you have a black parent.
Probably wouldve came out darker if the father was black and mother white.