The Reality is that Xbox One came out too early

[MeachTheMonster]

The PS3 wasn't inferior to the 360 the two had drastically different architectures. that isn't the case here. both are x86 with the One and PS4. the 360 was 3 core Power PC and the PS3 was a 7 SPE Cell build. If you didn't design a game from the ground up to use the Cell the optimization would be inefficient.

This is just untrue it is a narative that was made up by Sony stans on the Internet that has been debunked by developers.

First off. The ps3 is less powerful PERIOD. This cell shyt y'all like to repeat is an excuse. Devs have already said the ps3 is less powerfull. It was able to lessen the gap over time through optimizations. Multiplat devs have more incentive to spend optimization time on achieving parity then they have at pushing one platform way better than the others.

Two. The PS4 and Xbox are not the same. They have different hardware and they have different software pushing the hardware. If you dont build a game from the ground up to use the esram the optimaztion will be inefficient. They also have different allocations on how that hardware will be used (I.e. the Xbox uses more overhead for things like snap, instant switching, kinect). They also are on different timeframes. Drivers/tools are more mature on ps4 and devs have had more time with it. All of this leads to the differences we see in the games and those differences are stil LESS than we saw at the begening of last gen.

 

[winb83]

This is just untrue it is a narative that was made up by Sony stans on the Internet that has been debunked by developers.

First off. The ps3 is less powerful PERIOD. This cell shyt y'all like to repeat is an excuse. Devs have already said the ps3 is less powerfull. It was able to lessen the gap over time through optimizations. Multiplat devs have more incentive to spend optimization time on achieving parity then they have at pushing one platform way better than the others.

Two. The PS4 and Xbox are not the same. They have different hardware and they have different software pushing the hardware. If you dont build a game from the ground up to use the esram the optimaztion will be inefficient. They also have different allocations on how that hardware will be used (I.e. the Xbox uses more overhead for things like snap, instant switching, kinect). They also are on different timeframes. Drivers/tools are more mature on ps4 and devs have had more time with it. All of this leads to the differences we see in the games and those differences are stil LESS than we saw at the begening of last gen.

Um no
www.ign.com/articles/2010/08/26/xbox-360-vs-playstation-3-the-hardware-throwdown
PS3 max output 320 Gflops
360 max output 77 Gflops

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Um no
www.ign.com/articles/2010/08/26/xbox-360-vs-playstation-3-the-hardware-throwdown
PS3 max output 320 Gflops
360 max output 77 Gflops

some numbers ign pulled out of their ass.

From the witcher dev

We definitely would have loved to, but The Witcher 2 on PC was so big that making it work on Xbox 360 took us a year," he said. "The Xbox 360 was a more powerful and easier-to-code-on platform than PS3, so that would have taken us another year or year-and-a-half."

From the dev that first broke the story that ps4 was more powerful

Think about it this way. X360 is faster than PS3. Not just easier to program on, it's faster overall (although PS is faster/better in SOME areas). And yet no exclusive on X360 looks like The Last of Us. Halo 4 looks great. Gears blew my mind in 2006. And still, the best looking AAA game of this generation belongs to the supposedly weaker platform.

So if you think that the war is over because PS4 is 50% faster TODAY, then you're delusional. This is far from over, and will probably never be over, at least not this upcoming gen.

 

[Rice N Beans]

And so when devs state the XB1 is weaker than PS4 Meach goes into bullshyt mode. But the 360 somehow being stronger than the PS3 is all right by him.

 

[winb83]

some numbers ign pulled out of their ass.

From the witcher dev



From the dev that first broke the story that ps4 was more powerful

That's because despite what that developer said The Last of Us was built from the ground up to take advantage of the PS3's architecture. The reality of what we got doesn't match what he's saying. If the Xbox 360 was the stronger platform then it's development tools and developers would have advanced to the point where it had the best looking exclusives. Its never the case that the tools and tricks on one side can't advance while the other can. That's bullshyt and he's contradicting himself there.

 

[Rico]

Y'all still talking about 360?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

That's because despite what that developer said The Last of Us was built from the ground up to take advantage of the PS3's architecture. The reality of what we got doesn't match what he's saying. If the Xbox 360 was the stronger platform then it's development tools and developers would have advanced to the point where it had the best looking exclusives. Its never the case that the tools and tricks on one side can't advance while the other can. That's bullshyt and he's contradicting himself there.

The games have different goals. No exclusive game on 360 ever tried to match what was done with the last of us.

That's like saying Ryse is the best looking "next gen" game therefore Xbox one is the most powerful.

 

[winb83]

The games have different goals. No exclusive game on 360 ever tried to match what was done with the last of us.

That's like saying Ryse is the best looking "next gen" game therefore Xbox one is the most powerful.

That's like saying the hardware is more powerful but 360's developers never attempted to push it and PS3 developers pushed it to the limits. Or its basically saying the PS3 had better developers. That's absurd.

 

[NatiboyB]

in other words xbox wins no matter what.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

That's like saying the hardware is more powerful but 360's developers never attempted to push it and PS3 developers pushed it to the limits. Or its basically saying the PS3 had better developers. That's absurd.

No. Ps3 developers spent their budget concentrating on graphics.

Xbox developers spent their budget concentrating on gameplay.

In order for the last of us to look as good as it does, it has to be very limited in gameplay scenarios and overall scope.

It's silly to try to compare a corridor shooter with a sandbox shooter with huge open environments/wars/vehicles.

 

[winb83]

in other words xbox wins no matter what.

basically. everything he says leads to a pro-Xbox conclusion. its like this guy has never heard of the term conformation bias.

If Xbox exclusive games don't look as good its because PS3 exclusive games were developed in a manor to make them look better and limit gameplay
If the PS4 is more powerful then it won't remain so because developers will figure out tricks to get more out of the Xbox One while PS4 development is apparently stuck at a stand still.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

basically. everything he says leads to a pro-Xbox conclusion. its like this guy has never heard of the term conformation bias.

You got that backwords. I've provided direct quotes from people who actualy work on the games to back up what i said. You've done nothing but repeat random speculation with nothing to back it up.

If Xbox exclusive games don't look as good its because PS3 exclusive games were developed in a manor to make them look better and limit gameplay

So are we now gonna pretend that the scope of a game has nothing to do with visual quality?

Is it ok to compare a game like GTA to Crysis and then conclude that the crysis devs were better since it looks better?

If the PS4 is more powerful then it won't remain so because developers will figure out tricks to get more out of the Xbox One while PS4 development is apparently stuck at a stand still.

Nice strawman too bad i never said this at all.

 

[Fury616]

That's on you, the gen was already capped out what it could do...it was struggle HD gaming at that point with the latest technologies. 8 and 9 year old tech inside those boxes breh. It was time to move on.

Actually thats on you...beta testers and early adapters stay losing having to wait for updates to play mp3s and shyt wit mostly games from last gen and a pathetic library. I'll move on as soon as my 15+ game backlog is depleted.
*goes back to playing Dark Souls 2 and TWD*

 

[MeachTheMonster]

@GoldenGlove and @posterchild336

Y'all dapped that post up. Do you think the devs I quoted are lying?

Do you think it's fair to compare graphics between gta and crysis?

What am I missing here?

 

[Snitchin Splatter]

breh, i give props to console devs because they know hwo to get the best out of limited hardware, but be real. it's not like devs are going to magically find a way to get xbox 1 to push games at 1080p, 60fps. they will squeeze more out of these consoles for sure, but we're going to hit the ceiling within 3 yrs

edit: and i still say xbox 1 is already maxed out

so in the first 4 months of the system being out its maxed out now?

just stop, you're better than that