The Ringer-Verse Thread.... "The Racist Movie Character Draft"

[manyfaces]

I also get what Van saying to but,

Van is arguing that you should go out and watch every show and movie no matter how bad it is, because it has black people attached to it. Van's rant didnt even answer the dude's question, which is why is Disney dumping the shyt like they dont give a fukk about it. It seemed like Van took the question and shifted blame to the black audience, which is lame. If the product is bad/mediocre, aint shyt the audience can do about it, especially the black fandom inside of comic book movie audience. If the shyt trash it aint like we can get our more casual people to fukk with it.

I think some of this goes back to what Wallo said in that leaked vid, which I agree with him on some of it. The part I agree with him on is, you gotta have more going for you other than "Im black/black people involved". The arrogant shyt he said at the end was trash. Like you, I'll give a person an opportunity because they are black, but that's only gonna be once if the service/food/quality is bad.

I get and agree with the point that black creatives should be allowed to be mediocre and get another shot(I think Frames Per Second, specifically Kinge/Myke have this sentiment as well), but the black audience isnt to blame for that, that's on the higherups behind the scenes.

Respect. We pretty much on the same page then. I'm not watching or supporting garbage just because it's black. I do try to give any of the conventional nerd shyt a longer leash because I know nobody else probably gonna support it.

I guess I didn't take Van as shifting blame to the black audience, but I think him pivoting to his talking point was kind of a natural progression. Dude asked about Feeling like their hiding the black shows or getting like Disney treating as if their disposable. Van just kind of got to the root of the why and a bit of a solution. I don't totally agree, but I also don't totally agree on the other end of the spectrum with what Wallo was saying either. Just being black ain't enough, but it is something. I'm not an equal opportunity consumer. You black and you solid I'm leaning your way vs the same production from the field.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Respect. We pretty much on the same page then. I'm not watching or supporting garbage just because it's black. I do try to give any of the conventional nerd shyt a longer leash because I know nobody else probably gonna support it.

I guess I didn't take Van as shifting blame to the black audience, but I think him pivoting to his talking point was kind of a natural progression. Dude asked about Feeling like their hiding the black shows or getting like Disney treating as if their disposable. Van just kind of got to the root of the why and a bit of a solution. I don't totally agree, but I also don't totally agree on the other end of the spectrum with what Wallo was saying either. Just being black ain't enough, but it is something. I'm not an equal opportunity consumer. You black and you solid I'm leaning your way vs the same production from the field.

We can all agree his heart is in the right place...he is correct that black directors and actors don't get enough second chances. I definitely agree that we SHOULD give FIRST chances aggressively. And support good context aggressively. And we do. The black movie goer for quality is always underestimated...everything coogler and peele is a hit for a reason. But, if you aren't good, we should not lower standards.

Honestly, this applies to restaurants and service providers too.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Btw for those new to midnight boys, they did whitest movies draft 9 most ago



Van killed it with the final pick

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Btw for those new to midnight boys, they did whitest movies draft 9 most ago



Van killed it with the final pick

"It's a white savior movie..... for a black Superhero!" I was rollin when he was breaking it down

 

[manyfaces]

Btw for those new to midnight boys, they did whitest movies draft 9 most ago



Van killed it with the final pick

Remind me in spoilers. I watched this one already but don't remember which pick that was. Also the black super hero drafts are just as good. A moment from the first draft has seat the standard for a forever reference in the show. The boys just got great chemistry and all can take being the punching bag when it's their turn (and it's always Steve's turn ).

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Rewind me in spoilers. I watched this one already but don't remember which pick that was. Also the black super hero drafts are just as good. A moment from the first draft has seat the standard for a forever reference in the show. The boys just got great chemistry and all can take being the punching bag when it's their turn (and it's always Steve's turn ).

HANCOCK a black superhero who's an alcoholic, goes to jail, and is attracted and powered up by a white woman

fukk Hancock lol...I never looked at the movie the same again

 

[manyfaces]

HANCOCK a black superhero who's an alcoholic, goes to jail, and is attracted and powered up by a white woman

fukk Hancock lol...I never looked at the movie the same again

Oh yeah

Spoiler

I was rocking with that movie until the very end, when they made his weakness white women. That's when I was like awww man, get this bullshyt outta here

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Damn Van/the crew said they probably shouldve scrapped Ironheart and it takes a step back from the character that was presented in BP 2

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Damn Van/the crew said they probably shouldve scrapped Ironheart and it takes a step back from the character that was presented in BP 2

I haven't watched the series yet but if they shytting on it (meaning everyone aside from Charles who shyts on almost everything) hard then it must suck.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I haven't watched the series yet but if they shytting on it (meaning everyone aside from Charles who shyts on almost everything) hard then it must suck.

yea, at one point Van was like "Come on guys, we gotta at least find a kernel of something good/positive to say about the show". That's when they said it looks good and dominique is a good actress and has a bright future. Seems like a case of the writing really failing the show. They ended the convo on the show saying Ironheart is like when you know someone's food is trash, but you eat it and dont complain because you know they made it with love. The also tied in the whole "dont shyt on black shows/movies in public" into that convo as well.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Having Van and Charles on one side seems unfair, those muthafukkas love to argue

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Van wildn out already

 

[jwinfield]

Van wildn out already

This Van/Gunn and Chuck/Feige back and forth is

Chuck: Spidey 4 in production, because I'm the big boss, even when I don't own the characters I get em in line. Matt Reeves don't even respect you.

 

[YakSpiller]

Van said cac on one of these he’s definitely posted on here before.

Everyone was looking around like I never heard that before.

 

[TheNatureBoy]

I like the idea of the alien draft they mentioned towards the end, those are usually some of their best episodes.