The song that started the east/west coast rivalry?

[FeloniousMonk]

you're giving me the beginning of turn this mutha out (great record)

what we're talking about is the older record that preceded the creation of mutha, and that is let's get it started with the hood video. hammer called out doug e. fresh, run from run dmc, and LL Cool J specifically. now are we saying that perhaps hammer had run-ins with those three rappers specifically who displayed their east coast bias and he was getting his revenge lyrically?

actually had let's get in started but my goofy ass changes it to turn this mutha.

And he just went at the more well known and established artist.

No diff than K.Dot on the control record.

 

[Rollo Goodlove]

If you lived on the east coast at the time this came out this shyt was classic though

It was trash and he couldn’t rap, but he made up for up with pure ignorance and fukkery.

His album was horrendous though.

Immigrant trash

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Tim Dog was a nobody. Never heard of him before that song, never heard from him after.

So that means you never heard of Ultramagnetic Mc's? Kool Keith?

You not from New York? Are you?

 

[avon barksdale]

He was going at west coast rappers, but didn’t name any names

This was about ice t

 

[Bolzmark]

So that means you never heard of Ultramagnetic Mc's? Kool Keith?

You not from New York? Are you?

Uhhhh what? Ego Trippin was a staple in my Walkman. Tim Dogs little affiliation with them didn’t make him well known stop it.

 

[Taadow]

Wtf are you talking about fool? I’m talking about NYC as a whole.

Muthafucca- you literally said what you personally was doing in Brooklyn like anybody gave a farm fresh fucc.
We didn’t.

 

[Bolzmark]

Muthafucca- you literally said what you personally was doing in Brooklyn like anybody gave a farm fresh fucc.
We didn’t.

Look stupid. I wasn't saying it like "oh I'm from Brooklyn give me props". No, the point of the conversation is what was the start of the east/west tension. Me being in NY, the main place when we refer to the "east" back in those days, I was there and I know exactly what the mood was towards west coast hip hop. And I'm telling you our mood was west coast rappers can't fukk with NY/East Coast rappers. And the NY rappers didn't give the west coast rappers respect as mc's. The west resented that. This was before Tim Dogs song. When he dropped it, it wasn't like "oh wow is there tension between east and west???" No. The only shocker was "why is HE speaking on it"?

Get it now dummy?

 

[Taadow]

Look stupid. I wasn't saying it like "oh I'm from Brooklyn give me props". No, the point of the conversation is what was the start of the east/west tension. Me being in NY, the main place when we refer to the "east" back in those days, I was there and I know exactly what the mood was towards west coast hip hop. And I'm telling you our mood was west coast rappers can't fukk with NY/East Coast rappers. And the NY rappers didn't give the west coast rappers respect as mc's. The west resented that. This was before Tim Dogs song. When he dropped it, it wasn't like "oh wow is there tension between east and west???" No. The only shocker was "why is HE speaking on it"?

Get it now dummy?

Fucc y’all’s “mood” - you can feel however you want about anything, but it doesn’t matter until you
start saying it. That’s why “Fucc Compton” started this chit.

That song wasn’t talking about rapping - it was about Compton. This was when it became about
more than rap chit. Tim Dog almost got beat up (or worse) behind that chit. And, as mentioned,
he himself admitted he made the song because he was salty. You can take the rest of bullchit
you talking back across the street.

 

[Bolzmark]

Fucc y’all’s “mood” - you can feel however you want about anything, but it doesn’t matter until you
start saying it. That’s why “Fucc Compton” started this chit.

That song wasn’t talking about rapping - it was about Compton. This was when it became about
more than rap chit. Tim Dog almost got beat up (or worse) behind that chit. And, as mentioned,
he himself admitted he made the song because he was salty. You can take the rest of bullchit
you talking back across the street.

Ok stupid whatever you say.

 

[get these nets]

you're giving me the beginning of turn this mutha out (great record)

what we're talking about is the older record that preceded the creation of mutha, and that is let's get it started with the hood video. hammer called out doug e. fresh, run from run dmc, and LL Cool J specifically. now are we saying that perhaps hammer had run-ins with those three rappers specifically who displayed their east coast bias and he was getting his revenge lyrically?

Anybody who is promoting that Hammer was responding to earlier run ins with Run,LL, or Dougie has a bad take.

His ego told him to go at the top rappers, just like his ego told him to call out and challenge MICHAEL JACKSON a few years later.

Don't listen to dudes who ignore pieces of stories to fit whatever their take is.

 

[Taadow]

Anybody who is promoting that Hammer was responding to earlier run ins with Run,LL, or Dougie has a bad take.

His ego told him to go at the top rappers, just like his ego told him to call out and challenge MICHAEL JACKSON a few years later.

Don't listen to dudes who ignore pieces of stories to fit whatever their take is.

Yeah. That, and LL did the exact same thing on "Rock The Bells".
That's the benchmark for this hip-hop competition. I didn't matter where anybody was specifically from - you just went for the top of the mountain.



But like I was saying earlier "Fucc Compton" is where that dynamic changed. That's when it became some geographical chit.

 

[get these nets]

Yeah. That, and LL did the exact same thing on "Rock The Bells".
That's the benchmark for this hip-hop competition. I didn't matter where anybody was specifically from - you just went for the top of the mountain.

But like I was saying earlier "Fucc Compton" is where that dynamic changed. That's when it became some geographical chit.

Do you like Michael Jackson?
WE LIKE COOL J!

"You hated Michael and Prince, all the way ever since, if their beats were made of meat, then they would have to mince"

To keep it a buck, RUNDMC went at MJ if you really look at it. The King of Rock video, they step on the glitter glove during the "It's NOT Micheal Jackson, and this is NOT Thriller"

Hammer went at MJ's head, for real.

Hammer was the biggest star in the world at one point, so anybody who can remember his early rap disses would remember him getting at MJ.

 

[Wacky D]

i remember mc hammer was the first one to really come on out with it.

EDIT: i see some discussion on hammer in here. gonna check this thread out later.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Uhhhh what? Ego Trippin was a staple in my Walkman. Tim Dogs little affiliation with them didn’t make him well known stop it.

Dude if you from NYC, you knew who Tim Dog was prior to Fukk Compton.

Thank you for my answer.

 

[Bolzmark]

Dude if you from NYC, you knew who Tim Dog was prior to Fukk Compton.

Thank you for my answer.

Yeah, because Tim Dog was just running hip hop right? Not Rakim, Kane, KRS, Slick Rick, LL. No it was Tim Dog. Everybody knew him from all those hits. Here I was thinking I grew up in Fort Greene. Apparently not, since I was not up on the well known Tim Dog.

Niqqa shut the fukk up.