The south making it a thing to let everyone know they don’t listen to jay Z is forced and corny

[BulletProof]

Makes no sense

Southern dudes go out of their way to brag about how they never really fukked with nyc hiphop but bytch about nyc biases lol

Why the fukk is it cool for you to hate on nyc hiphop but we must fukk with not just the top south artists but must also cop Telas 3rd album or were haters

Its cause and effect.

NY says, "You cant sit at our lunch table."

The South says, "Well, fine...we didnt want to eat lunch with you anyway...your table is all stupid and lopsided...you losers."

In any case, their most sucessful and beloved rapper is a parody of a decent late nineties NY rapper who worshipped Jay and was taught how to rap by a dude from Philly.

Its not like they bring up someone like Scarface when it comes to terroritoral pissing.

 

[Frump]

up north nikkas in they feelings cuz nikkas down here en masse DONT GIVE AF about none of that double talk gibberish over a boom bap beat shyt. nikkas rapping about the moons and stars and shyt .... mathematics

Pull ya skirts down

Huh? Y’all the ones who always bytch that we don’t fukk with your shyt not us we’re just pointing out the hypocrisy

And believe me the feelings mutual we don’t get a lot of the fukkin garbage you guys listen to lol

 

[BulletProof]

up north nikkas in they feelings cuz nikkas down here en masse DONT GIVE AF about none of that double talk gibberish over a boom bap beat shyt. nikkas rapping about the moons and stars and shyt .... mathematics

Pull ya skirts down

Do all you down south cousin fukkers talked to your fathers this way?

I was always under the impression you guys were respectful, Church going people.

Granted, another northerner had to tell me that because I can never understand what the fukk you people are trying to say.

So it could just be bad intel.

 

[OnlyOneBoss]

I lived in Georgia for a long time and I can definitely say it's a big thing. Like I said a few times, the south has an inferiority complex towards the Northeast and since Jay-Z is the face of New York rap they hate on him as their way of drawing their line in the sand.

This is true. I think it’s a big reason why Cole isn’t THAT big in the south outside of NC even though (especially recently) he always shouts out the south

 

[Youngblood Priest]

nikkaz please.........

































Get out your damn feelings.

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

Huh? Y’all the ones who always bytch that we don’t fukk with your shyt not us we’re just pointing out the hypocrisy

And believe me the feelings mutual we don’t get a lot of the fukkin garbage you guys listen to lol

Most dudes down here DON'T CARE about all that shyt. nikkas slapping Future cuz they like the music better, it's not that deep.

Ny music was created for Ny nikkas for the most part. Op making threads crying about up north nikkas not getting the same love down south. fukk outta here.

Salute to NY tho. They came up with the shyt so you gotta salute always.

 

[Mindfield333]

All I remember is ignorant comments from Dem Franchize Boyz talking about Nas and Egyptian raps and Jeezy asking if Nas busts his gun. Jeezy apologized and made a song with him. Dem Franchize Boyz are after thoughts.

Naming your album hip-hop is dead when the south was on top offended a lot of folks

 

[spliz]

Naming your album hip-hop is dead when the south was on top offended a lot of folks

Nas made it clear he wasn't talking about the South tho. Plenty of times. He was one of the few folks giving props to half the cats who ended up dissing him for it. When the rest of the game was shytting on them. Take Souljah Boy for instance. nikka showed MAD love to Souljah Boy just got him to turn around and diss Nas. nikka had Luda on his last album and on the remix to one of his hit singles and Luda still caught feelings. That was some straight up guilty conscience type shyt.

 

[Mindfield333]

Carolina’s used to mess with Jay-Z and New York rappers heavy. I always assumed it was because of the the family connections whereas most Georgia peoples relatives are in the Midwest or deeper south. Georgia always had their own thing going. You can contrast it with little brother and J Cole versus say Gucci mane and them. Jeezy from South Carolina too.

Carolinas really didn’t have a musical identity. Atlanta did. I remember in college a met a cat from Atlanta who only listened to Atlanta artists. This was the early 2000s. That was wild to me.

 

[Mindfield333]

In the formative commercial years when the south blew up, they did they best to undermine lyricism as a whole because they associated lyricism = NY = sounding smart. They pushed and doubled down on the strip club shyt and made narratives that lyricism doesn't sell and is irrelevant to drunken hoes.

your whole theory is off base. Rap was about getting the party started and shyt like that and deviated LATER to more of the lyricism angle with Rakim/BD Kane etc. So the club/party music of the south would be closer to raps essence. Also factoring in the car, strip club party culture where you’re focusing on the vibe more than the lyrics.

 

[Wild self]

your whole theory is off base. Rap was about getting the party started and shyt like that and deviated LATER to more of the lyricism angle with Rakim/BD Kane etc. So the club/party music of the south would be closer to raps essence. Also factoring in the car, strip club party culture where you’re focusing on the vibe more than the lyrics.

Rap evolved form basic party music to lyrical poetry because it would have DIED LIKE DISCO. Stagnation of the genre will kill it. Besides, all of Hip Hops best historical moments involves ADVANCED LYRICISM.

 

[BEN23]

Fair and as I said I think everyone prefers their own I just think nyc is the only place that gets shyt for it

they mad because you cant dominate rap unless nyc is fukking with you.....look at nelly and his air force ones....a new york style
look at drake and who pay homage too dipset....
we set the trends

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

Do all you down south cousin fukkers talked to your fathers this way?

I was always under the impression you guys were respectful, Church going people.

Granted, another northerner had to tell me that because I can never understand what the fukk you people are trying to say.

So it could just be bad intel.

Lol, back to the topic. I have no issues with up north rappers, I personally fukk with Jay. But why y'all would think people down here would dikk suck a NY rapper like a NY nikka would is beyond me. fukk them nikkas honestly, we got our own shyt and now northerners mad cuz we're pimping and slutting out THEIR DAUGHTER(hip hop) and ain't giving her back til the hoe ain't profitable no more

That's what this really about . fukk a NY rapper. A rotten child is often a reflection on the parent....ponder on that, goofy

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Yep. As a 42 year old dude from Queens obviously the nyc 90’s boom bap Nas Biggie Jay z Mobb Deep is my favorite era and what I grew up on but I loved all that sh1t you mentioned

Dre and Snoop really got me heavy into hiphop I also loved stuff from the south the dungeon family geto boys etc and as you said those songs were all played on nyc radio

Imo it sounds like we gave their music more of a chance then vice versa

If you want to be real with it culturally I think we just love music in general more.

Down south you hear dudes talk all the time about how music is basically just for the clubs and strip clubs.

They think anything deeper then that to listen to is corny and too lyrically miracle

Obviously not everyone but speaking in general terms

Y'all are before my time slightly but my older brother is in y'alls age bracket and grew up in Redhook. In my parents house there's a picture of him and one of my cousins circa '94 and my cousin is dressed like Snoop from head to TOE. Flannel, fro, all that shyt. Snoop was God. And of my clear memories, I know my older bro and his friends were bumping No Limit, Cash Money, Aftermath and all that shyt just as much as Roc A Fella and Ruff Ryders.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

What album in the 1990s Jay-Z had (at the time) sold 5 million records??

Did his album sell 4-5 million albums that year when it was released or has it now eclisped that number 20 or so years later??

Hard Knock Life sold 5 million in 98/99, and then Vol. 3 debuted in December 99 at Number 1

Like dawg what are you talking about with this Harold Miner shyt, Jay-Z was Number 2 to DMX in '98, not some also-ran