There's showing respect and there's dikk ridingShowing respect to your peers, elders and greats is apparently reserved to Latinos, cacs and Chinese
To too many black pride and love is only relevant when it’s anti-white, disgusting.
The south making it a thing to let everyone know they don’t listen to jay Z is forced and corny
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That is true but to you dudes, it's obviously the same.
Personally dikk riding to me is constantly being on someones shyt, whether it's like Gipp or the opposite. Dude just chose to do a whole interview series about a fellow 50+ year old dude he doesn't know like he's his forgotten son.
I'm from BK. I've seen astonishing amount of dikk riding for Jay Z. More than any other NY artist besides BIG
The amount of respect people show the two greatest MCs from the burough is astonishing?
Go to Jersey and see what white people say about Springsteen, go to Liverpool and see what they say about the Beatles, Tennessee and see what they say about Stapleton or Oklahoma about Garth Brooks, little italy and any Italian .
About in this shyt and these times, it's fukk him and fukk him, dikk riding this, stanning that. It's disgusting to me. Showcases a wider issue within the community with the lack of respect and excess supply of hate among each other.
What about 50 or Cam?
50 dikk riding was mostly from 02 til 05. It was still dikk riding, but it wasn't that bad like with Jay. With 50 it was more about the music, not necessarily him. Hence why after The Massacre everyone kinda moved on. Same with Cam. Yeah, the hood fukked with them but that's cuz they still kept putting out great music.
Jay, however, even when he dropped that wack ass 03 Bonnie & Clyde and La La La and other wack ass records, you would still see nikkas losing they shyt and wanting to fight nikkas for talking bad bout Jay.
Even his last album, 4:44... Only old dusty hip hop message boards like this one were hyping that shyt up. Like Jay can literally do no wrong... Cam, 50, Nas, etc... If they dropped some wack shyt, they was out of here. Jay and his ppl paid DJ's, radio stations, and a bunch of people behind the scenes to act like his shyt was hot when it wasn't. Funk Flex and Angie Martinez being the worst offenders of them all
This is facts though.YO!
That's the thing that gets me about it! OK, y'all weren't rockin' to Smif n Wessun, GangStarr, or whatever the fukk back in the '90s, your prerogative... but let a MF from the East Coast say they never listened to Kingpin Skinny Pimp or Ghetto Mafia or some song that only got played in three states during the spring of '98, and "BIAS!" is the first thing that comes outta nikkas' mouths!
Yup.
One of their own gave Jay a decent shot in the arm back then on that Life in 1472 album (and it was a good album for its time).
Then he goes on to completely abandon the art form to make movies about him and Tyrese flying stolen cars in outer space.
RaspberryFitted
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that album had Jay, Nas, Mase, Lil Kim, Keith Sweat, Madd Rapper, DMX, Slick Rick, and Mariah Carey on it.. that’s nine artists from New York lmaooooo
Yup I’m well aware. Of those artists, Jay got a big boost. Mase and X were already on fire, Mariah was a superstar with a hip hop formula that was proven, Rick was already a legend, Nas had a classic under his belt, Keith Sweat was a R&B household name while D-Dot was doing Mass Rapper cosplay to go with his producing.
With that said Money Ain’t A Thang was going to work with or without Jay. And JD was basically an Atlanta gatekeeper at that point — great songs produced/wrote for R&B artists, could hold his own on the mic and his ghostwriters helped fill in the blanks ALOT.
YO!
That's the thing that gets me about it! OK, y'all weren't rockin' to Smif n Wessun, GangStarr, or whatever the fukk back in the '90s, your prerogative... but let a MF from the East Coast say they never listened to Kingpin Skinny Pimp or Ghetto Mafia or some song that only got played in three states during the spring of '98, and "BIAS!" is the first thing that comes outta nikkas' mouths!
I don't understand how the South been on top for so long commercially, and still hate on NY from those formative years prior to 2003. Insecurity is a Muthafukka, and the fact that they doing their best to kill any form of traditional lyricism from gaining any real traction is proof alone that a lot of people don't want a legitimately great NY artist without autotune to blow up ever again.
Now that you mention that, a lot of people hated the paradigm and era of hardcore lyricism when Nas came up because that FORCES people to step their game up and cannot flood the streets with garbage on a hot beat. They pushed anything that NY traditionally was never fukking with (strip club beats and culture, dances, etc) so that NY would never get a firm grasp of being the head of the culture again; a culture that NY invented, at that!
Passive aggressive shyt like that is why older Hip Hop heads see, and can never forgive.
That's not counting the Premo production on the title song. Besides, JD, the only other Southern artist on the album are Eightball and the Youngbloodz amd they appear on the same song. This is kind of what Gipp is getting at.
During the 90's, The South was still on the rise, so when someone like a JD goes and makes an East Coast centric album that doesn't really feature Southern MC's, it doesn't help the cause. It's why I laugh when JD is like "the South wasn't getting any play in NY until me".