The stupidification of America

[Richard Glidewell]

Never going to advocate for anyone to not seek higher education. whole lot of simplistic as views when theres more to it........including school location type degree plan and other factors that go into making a decision.......

 

[Vandelay]

I'd argue college is important, but it's value has been overinflated. Trust in institutions is more important. People are starting not to value the knowledge and judgment of those that are educated on specific disciplines.

That's dangerous.

Not everyone should go to college. It dilutes the value, inflates the cost, and you have a bunch of people choosing degrees for the wrong reasons.

 

[horizon]

This country is stupid and lazy and posters in here are gonna be talking about some “get a trade” when these people are not even pursuing trades because they’re trying to be social media content creators or some other unproductive bullshyt.

Pursue higher education, period.

 

[Wargames]

Colleges are showing a lower value (to cost) for non-Stem white collar pursuits. The investment isnt often worth the expense and some of those white collar jobs are actively being attacked by AI tools.

Vocational Schools are a better investment for many people than a 4 year. AI cant rewire a house and replace the plumbing. Its its a lower cost time and money investment for a better return.

Once people flood the market in trade schools like they did with tech the value will go down.

Before AI tech wasn’t paying what people thought it would unless people got put on, had gain specialized knowledge, and it wasn’t kind to older tech workers either.

Don’t even get me started on the fact that it takes years for a lot of people to make the bread people think they will. It’s also ripe for the type of hiring segregation that has been in the trade for years with white people putting other white people onto the best jobs. It’s the same shyt that had started to happen in tech with Whites and Asians putting each other on.

I say that to say this. I wish there was more talk about dudes going into the trades and then getting a PMP or taking some business courses to start their business in the trades. i knew a black man who owned 7 houses, his daughter was a doctor, and his sons and grandsons were developers/rental unit owners. That is the type of time people need to be on. If ya’ll go into the trades go in there with a long term lucrative plan.

 

[UpNext]

I think if people thought a college education was attainable financially they would go in higher numbers.

It's really not rocket science at all, and people are telling you they never had to worry about money a day in their life and letting their silver spoons show when they try to act like the current cost of school isn't the biggest reason why it's looked at the way it is today.

 

[Wargames]

It's really not rocket science at all, and people are telling you they never had to worry about money a day in their life and letting their silver spoons show when they try to act like the current cost of school isn't the biggest reason why it's looked at the way it is today.

For the kids right now who are college age they are the Covid teens who educationally are mostly lacking. It’s actually sort of sad but as a group they might be academically behind for the rest of their lives because for the most part their education got disrupted in middle school and high school.

 

[NAUGHTY]

 

[AnonymityX1000]

This country is stupid and lazy and posters in here are gonna be talking about some “get a trade” when these people are not even pursuing trades because they’re trying to be social media content creators or some other unproductive bullshyt.

Pursue higher education, period.

In our day I knew dudes who dropped out of college to rap or bought an ASR 10 with no prior knowledge how to use it.
Every age group has a subset of people with dillusions of grandeur they want to be rich and famous. It's not new.

 

[Wargames]

In our day I knew dudes who dropped out of college to rap or bought an ASR 10 with no prior knowledge how to use it.
Every age group has a subset of people with dillusions of grandeur they want to be rich and famous. It's not new.

I know a guy who failed out of college because he rather play video games. Though
lowkey he was self sabotaging.

 

[Dre Space Age]

My degree hasn't meant anything in the jobs I've worked and I've seen people that only have a high school diploma in higher postions. What I've learned is that it ain't about what you know, it's who you know.

 

[WIA20XX]

New media, college, trades, welfare UBI, whatever the hustle, folks are going to learn to live with less.

Plenty of college grads been living at home with their parents since the world financial crisis.

I was out the door at 18. My brother and sister are barely getting their lives started at ~30. Both have STEM degrees and full time jobs (sadly not CS, or maybe gladly with the current state of LLMs).

The economy is seriously broken and has been for sometime, for Black people especially.

The whites are in denial, both sides. They might see the problem but they don't get the urgency. And for the liberal/progressive whites, they are too fecklessb to save themselves even when they get how dire the situation is.

 

[Mike Nasty]

My degree hasn't meant anything in the jobs I've worked and I've seen people that only have a high school diploma in higher postions. What I've learned is that it ain't about what you know, it's who you know.

From what I've seen it's even simpler, show up on time and don't be an idiot.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I hear you but the vast majority of people opting out of higher education are not doing it for the reasons you highlighted

We live in an era now where large swaths of the population view podcasters,youtubers,random google searches from obscure websites as a more reliable source than the experts

I beg to differ. I’d venture to say that the MAJORITY of people who can go to college and choose not to do it specifically because it’s too expensive and doing so hasn’t resulted in gainful employment or a career anywhere near that it used to.

I suppose it depends on where you look for the metrics but I can confidently say people aren’t choosing not to because of their politics.

 

[WIA20XX]

I’d venture to say that the MAJORITY of people who can go to college and choose not to do it specifically because it’s too expensive and doing so hasn’t resulted in gainful employment or a career anywhere near that it used to

So what do these people end up doing?

The ones I knew back in the day were driving buses, barbers, and hair stylists.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I know a guy who failed out of college because he rather play video games. Though
lowkey he was self sabotaging.

Yeah, one of my best friends dropped out to become the next DJ Premier even tho he was barely a DJ or anything of the like. He tried it for a couple years saw it was way harder than he imagined and had to join the military. Stationed in Colorado and caught a case out there and had to do a few months. After which he came back to the NYC area, luckily his younger sister was about something and had a good job and helped him out with a place to live until he got his shyt together professionally.