The Summer of Dysfunction: NBA 2022 Offseason thread

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is John Collins bad in the locker room or something? I never understood why the hawks are trying to move him. He seems productive and he can stretch the floor.

I wouldn’t move him unless it was a major deal that got them a franchise altering player.

JC is my guy but the Hawks can definitely get an upgrade if they let him go. I’d like for him to stay but if Schlenk thinks he can upgrade the team by trading him then I’ll support that as well. Schlenk knows what he’s doing in the front office




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Why in the hell would the hawks do this :gucci:


Lol it’d be highway robbery if the Hawks pulled that off. Murray has way more value than Collins.


Trae
Murray
Hunter
Okungwu
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I wouldn’t mind that lineup. I need to see what they do with the C position..maybe put Okungwu at center & have Jalen Johnson start at PF but Nate doesn’t like to play young dudes
 

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The thing is Ayton has more capability than just being a rim running defensive big and he's shown that. He's a big that didn't get the ball much or have any action going through him. In that Dallas series Booker and Paul were stinking that bytch up and Monty didn't seem to care to try to get Ayton involved. I wouldn't use that series as the barometer of what he can be. As far as him clogging up the lane, I don't think that will be a problem either. It never seemed to be an issue in Phoenix and Ayton's shooting range is well outside to about 18 ft so he doest just have to be in the lane to be effective. Then there's the fact that Cade's game seemed to flourish even more once they added Bagley, who I think is more of a lane clogger than Ayton in his current state. So he's already proven to be effective with that type of player, but this version is better both offensively and defensively.
Idk man …this feels like excuses ….what happened during the finals last year? where was he at then? I just would feel uneasy about paying a big that doesn’t assert himself ..and the lane clogging was definitely a thing in phoenix they were a bottom 3rd team in attempts at the rim (23rd overall) they lived off of a diet of mid range jump shots and floaters …I would hate for Cades offense to devolve into that …and I don’t think Bagley is a great comp as the presumption here is that Ayton would require way more involvement and share of touches than he did last season or else why sign him …like I said I don’t hate it ..I’m not saying it won’t have any effectiveness ..I would just be concerned giving a guy like that the max on this kind of team … I think Ayton would flourish more on a team with a high volume 3 point shooting lead guard like a Trae Young in Atlanta …that would be my ideal landing spot for him

And though I don't think either situation is ideal, I think they'll get much better value throwing that money at Ayton than an undersized gunner in Sexton who doesn't bring much to the table besides him getting his own buckets. Plus with their current cap situation they can get both if they do desire.

Yeah but that’s what they need …Sexton opens the floor ..opens the lane for Cade …that’s a huge benefit regarding spacing ..they can afford to have a gunner like him on offense …and I don’t think they’ll be able to get both …correct me if I’m wrong but they’re looking at having around 40 million in space this off-season …pretty sure both will want more than 20 million a year
 

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@Gil Scott-Heroin ruining this damn thread :damn:

Pages and Pages of "your ignoring content from this member"

How the fukk I make it so I can't even see this moron name on my screen :damn:
fukking facts. I had to take that Goofy cac off of ignore to see what the fuss was about. He actually has me agreeing with an Atlanta fan

🤢 I’m going to be sick.
 

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Idk man …this feels like excuses ….what happened during the finals last year? where was he at then? I just would feel uneasy about paying a big that doesn’t assert himself ..and the lane clogging was definitely a thing in phoenix they were a bottom 3rd team in attempts at the rim (23rd overall) they lived off of a diet of mid range jump shots and floaters …I would hate for Cades offense to devolve into that …and I don’t think Bagley is a great comp as the presumption here is that Ayton would require way more involvement and share of touches than he did last season or else why sign him …like I said I don’t hate it ..I’m not saying it won’t have any effectiveness ..I would just be concerned giving a guy like that the max on this kind of team … I think Ayton would flourish more on a team with a high volume 3 point shooting lead guard like a Trae Young in Atlanta …that would be my ideal landing spot for him



Yeah but that’s what they need …Sexton opens the floor ..opens the lane for Cade …that’s a huge benefit regarding spacing ..they can afford to have a gunner like him on offense …and I don’t think they’ll be able to get both …correct me if I’m wrong but they’re looking at having around 40 million in space this off-season …pretty sure both will want more than 20 million a year
No, after the trade I think they have something like 50+ mil in cap space. I get your point in both regards, that's why I said neither are ideal. I'm just not the biggest fan of Sexton, but I understand how it could work.
 

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No, after the trade I think they have something like 50+ mil in cap space. I get your point in both regards, that's why I said neither are ideal. I'm just not the biggest fan of Sexton, but I understand how it could work.
I’m not the biggest fan either …just saying like out of the young guys available I would roll with him strictly off of the shooting if I had to choose …but if they can get both he and Ayton then fukk it …do that shyt …that would be a fun young team to watch
 
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Suns smart , fukk maxing ayton let some other sucka do that
I mean, the relationship is beyond repair, but given how their season ended, was it really smart of them to put themselves in the position of letting him walk in the first place? Is the alternative of running it back with the same direction on offense, only to end up coming to the same dead-end, any better?

I can’t help but feel like if they had their time again, they would’ve made a greater effort at featuring him more in the offense.
 

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If MJ wanted to be cheap, he could hire any random assistant instead of this guy who gets mid results every fukking time:gucci:

@42 Monks breh i hope for your sake this isn't true

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ppl say anything
 

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https://www.spurstalk.com/dejounte-murray-trade-rumor-atlanta-hawks/

It’s possible — but sources have gotten more pessimistic in recent hours. The Spurs are holding firm on requiring a monumental haul in order to trade Murray. A source says San Antonio wants a ā€œGodfather offerā€ and is in no rush to trade Murray.

First of all, I’m told that Collins wasn’t headed to the Spurs in the deal that was discussed yesterday. Collins was being sent to a third team. That team, believed to also be in the Western Conference, was set to send further draft compensation to the Spurs.


Makes more sense now..
 
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