The Summer of Dysfunction: NBA 2022 Offseason thread

[djthegreat88]

The hell is Detroit doing with Isaiah Stewart Come up off of him if ya'll gonna bury him on the bench.

He’s probably going to be playing more PF next year

 

[manyfaces]

That’s crazy they decided to use their cap space on absolutely nothing … maybe there’s something they’re eyeing next year

Yeah, their plan is to make a real playoff push in 2023. Looks like they're counting on internal growth of the youth and the talent upgrade from this draft to see what they've got first. I'm totally onboard with that. See what you got in the young guys first before hitching your wagon to a max salary. I was ok with pursuing Ayton because the prospect of him growing with Cade was intriguing, but honestly there is no need to rush it. Both the Knicks players have team options next year, so Detroit can still have a nice grip of cap space next summer to play with too.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Damn what's the market for Ayton now

 

[daboywonder2002]

Fred Van Fleet was criticized a bit …ironically that was another undersized guard the Knicks were ready to drop a bag on

I was thinking Rozier but it's not like the Hornets are out here making the playoffs so that's not the answer. VanVleet is that kind of player where if the Raptors resign him to a near Max, it's a win. If the Knicks had signed him, it's what the hell are they doing?

 

[Jerz]

The Knicks really would move heaven and earth so they can cash out Jalen Brunson

 

[Left.A1]

Yeah, their plan is to make a real playoff push in 2023. Looks like they're counting on internal growth of the youth and the talent upgrade from this draft to see what they've got first. I'm totally onboard with that. See what you got in the young guys first before hitching your wagon to a max salary. I was ok with pursuing Ayton because the prospect of him growing with Cade was intriguing, but honestly there is no need to rush it. Both the Knicks players have team options next year, so Detroit can still have a nice grip of cap space next summer to play with too.

I mean they didn’t have to offer max salaries to leverage their salary cap space… and the thing with conserving your space is tht you open yourself up to cap competition in future years …they were one of the only teams to could absorb big contracts on the open market or in a S&T and they kind of did nothing …not saying it’s a wrong play but it’ll be interesting to observe over these next few years

 

[Left.A1]

I was thinking Rozier but it's not like the Hornets are out here making the playoffs so that's not the answer. VanVleet is that kind of player where if the Raptors resign him to a near Max, it's a win. If the Knicks had signed him, it's what the hell are they doing?

Pretty much

 

[daboywonder2002]

Damn what's the market for Ayton now

Suns basically bidding against themselves. Do I think Ayton is worth the max? Yea I do he was great in the playoff run against Jokic and Davis, made them work on both ends. But when you're at the bidding table you should have some awards to justify your pay. This man has no All nba teams, no all stars, no all defensive teams. I think that hurts him a little bit.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Suns basically bidding against themselves. Do I think Ayton is worth the max? Yea I do he was great in the playoff run against Jokic and Davis, made them work on both ends. But when you're at the bidding table you should have some awards to justify your pay. This man has no All nba teams, no all stars, no all defensive teams. I think that hurts him a little bit.

Two words: qualifying offer.

 

[Brozay]

Suns basically bidding against themselves. Do I think Ayton is worth the max? Yea I do he was great in the playoff run against Jokic and Davis, made them work on both ends. But when you're at the bidding table you should have some awards to justify your pay. This man has no All nba teams, no all stars, no all defensive teams. I think that hurts him a little bit.

Suns don’t have to bid at all, they can let Ayton sign an offer sheet and match. with Detroit out it will be interesting to see who is willing to max him. what teams have the capspace - Pistons & Spurs? The Ayton situation is probably the most interesting piece of free agency right now. Kyrie is back. Zach and Beal will sign maxes to stay in Chicago/Washington. Jalen Brunson is accounted for. I’m sure there are other FAs and the Hawks seem dead set on making a big move. The smoke has died down with the Jazz, curious to see how they move forward with Rudy & Mitchell

 

[tremonthustler1]

Suns don’t have to bid at all, they can let Ayton sign an offer sheet and match. with Detroit out it will be interesting to see who is willing to max him. what teams have the capspace - Pistons & Spurs? The Ayton situation is probably the most interesting piece of free agency right now. Kyrie is back. Zach and Beal will sign maxes to stay in Chicago/Washington. Jalen Brunson is accounted for. I’m sure there are other FAs and the Hawks seem dead set on making a big move. The smoke has died down with the Jazz, curious to see how they move forward with Rudy & Mitchell

Free agency is gonna be as bad as everyone thought it would be.

I can't possibly see a team trying to create cap space to sign Ayton, so Ayton might have to wait til next offseason where he can pick his destination without restriction.

 

[Brozay]

I’m looking at this Hornets draft day trade of the 13th pick. They traded it to get the Nuggets 1st next year which is likely to be like 10 spots after 13, and a handful of 2nd round picks that they’ll probably end up unloading half of them down the line

can anyone make sense of that trade? I didn’t realize how awful it was until now because it had so many moving parts

also if Duren outperforms Mark Williams significantly it will haunt them for a long time

 

[tremonthustler1]

I’m looking at this Hornets draft day trade of the 13th pick. They traded it to get the Nuggets 1st next year which is likely to be like 10 spots after 13, and a handful of 2nd round picks that they’ll probably end up unloading half of them down the line

can anyone make sense of that trade? I didn’t realize how awful it was until now because it had so many moving parts

also if Duren outperforms Mark Williams significantly it will haunt them for a long time

The picks that got dealt felt like they went on clearance.

That said, Mark Williams is gonna be a problem.

 

[Brozay]

The picks that got dealt felt like they went on clearance.

That said, Mark Williams is gonna be a problem.

I am a big Williams fan as well, it’s less about Duren being passed on and why the hell they chose to give away 13 for presumably 20-25 next draft. Having a hard time understanding the rationale there.

 

[DoubleJ13]

I am a big Williams fan as well, it’s less about Duren being passed on and why the hell they chose to give away 13 for presumably 20-25 next draft. Having a hard time understanding the rationale there.

Probably just a money move. They pay Bridges $20+m & they're spending $70m on him, Hayward, & Rozier. As soon as Hayward's money comes off the books it's time to pay Melo without factoring in anybody else they sign/re-sign. Their going to need some cheap guys