The Summer of Dysfunction: NBA 2022 Offseason thread

[Inertia Creeps]

As much as I disagreed with it at the time, Morey gave everyone the blueprint last season.

Having to hold Kyrie on an expiring isn't the end of the world if you're also trying to see what deals you're going to get for KD. That Lakers offer isn't going anywhere anyway.

KD himself gets to hold that L too. No one is actually giving a damn if he starts playing like shyt. These bums were swept in the first round last season.

Nets planting their foot in terms of getting a good deal for KD is what they need to do to get over this nonsense. They got one of the most coveted players in the league and if Simmons wasn't out there blocking a ton of trades, Ayton wouldn't even be mentioned in this conversation.

By the time the deadline comes and some teams figure out they're toast, the offers will pick up. Right now, the Nets are running the same play the Sixers did last season. This will take a while.

Yeah, people saying "B-b--bu Kyrie is expiring!! If the Nets don't get rid of him now they'll end up with nothing!!!" don't understand how expiring contracts actually work. $37 million in expiring money at next year's deadline, with that all-time stacked draft class and LeBron's last free agency coming up in the offseason??? Kyrie could be in Ukraine forming a private militia to go free Brittney Griner and he'd still have a dozen suitors across the league just for the potential salary relief alone.

But if you only have 1 team interested in him now, the malcontent's preferred landing spot, and all you're being offered from them is garbage like Westbrick and a single pick?? Why wouldn't you pull a Morey and just wait it out till more people come calling? Kyrie would probably love to sit out half the season and tweet out his cryptic 3rd eye awakening bullshyt until then too, not like you have to worry about him injuring himself and hurting his value

 

[Recca Gatsby]

Who has Josh Jackson?

 

[Foxmulder]

Kyrie could be in Ukraine forming a private militia to go free Brittney Griner

 

[Leasy]

As much as I disagreed with it at the time, Morey gave everyone the blueprint last season.

Having to hold Kyrie on an expiring isn't the end of the world if you're also trying to see what deals you're going to get for KD. That Lakers offer isn't going anywhere anyway.

KD himself gets to hold that L too. No one is actually giving a damn if he starts playing like shyt. These bums were swept in the first round last season.

Nets planting their foot in terms of getting a good deal for KD is what they need to do to get over this nonsense. They got one of the most coveted players in the league and if Simmons wasn't out there blocking a ton of trades, Ayton wouldn't even be mentioned in this conversation.

By the time the deadline comes and some teams figure out they're toast, the offers will pick up. Right now, the Nets are running the same play the Sixers did last season. This will take a while.

You explain this shyt better than i can. This goes to the guy quoting me earlier in the thread lol. Yeah 76ers set the blueprint. There will be a team who believes they are a player away in the middle of the season pulling the trigger for Kyrie.

Who knows Lakers might just trade AD if all else fail during the season.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

As much as I disagreed with it at the time, Morey gave everyone the blueprint last season.

Having to hold Kyrie on an expiring isn't the end of the world if you're also trying to see what deals you're going to get for KD. That Lakers offer isn't going anywhere anyway.

KD himself gets to hold that L too. No one is actually giving a damn if he starts playing like shyt. These bums were swept in the first round last season.

Nets planting their foot in terms of getting a good deal for KD is what they need to do to get over this nonsense. They got one of the most coveted players in the league and if Simmons wasn't out there blocking a ton of trades, Ayton wouldn't even be mentioned in this conversation.

By the time the deadline comes and some teams figure out they're toast, the offers will pick up. Right now, the Nets are running the same play the Sixers did last season. This will take a while.

The Simmons and Kyrie situation are completely different from each other, so there's no use in comparing them together. Kyrie is on an expiring contract and you're going to be hard pressed to find a team that will give up major picks and assets to get him without any assurances that he'll sign long term as that benefits Brooklyn more than it does the current teams.

Even in the case of James Harden, he technically wasn't an expiring contract like Kyrie is. He just an opt out in his contract and the Sixers were on his original list and the Morey connection.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Yeah, people saying "B-b--bu Kyrie is expiring!! If the Nets don't get rid of him now they'll end up with nothing!!!" don't understand how expiring contracts actually work. $37 million in expiring money at next year's deadline, with that all-time stacked draft class and LeBron's last free agency coming up in the offseason??? Kyrie could be in Ukraine forming a private militia to go free Brittney Griner and he'd still have a dozen suitors across the league just for the potential salary relief alone.

But if you only have 1 team interested in him now, the malcontent's preferred landing spot, and all you're being offered from them is garbage like Westbrick and a single pick?? Why wouldn't you pull a Morey and just wait it out till more people come calling? Kyrie would probably love to sit out half the season and tweet out his cryptic 3rd eye awakening bullshyt until then too, not like you have to worry about him injuring himself and hurting his value

The potential salary relief alone is completely useless as the FA class next year is complete trash and it's more than likely that Bron stays with the Lakers. You'd have cap space, but no one to spend it on.

 

[Sghost597]

Watching the WNBA and these women are hooping

The quality took a huge leap three years ago and it's getting very entertaining to watch.

 

[Left.A1]

As much as I disagreed with it at the time, Morey gave everyone the blueprint last season.

Having to hold Kyrie on an expiring isn't the end of the world if you're also trying to see what deals you're going to get for KD. That Lakers offer isn't going anywhere anyway.

KD himself gets to hold that L too. No one is actually giving a damn if he starts playing like shyt. These bums were swept in the first round last season.

Nets planting their foot in terms of getting a good deal for KD is what they need to do to get over this nonsense. They got one of the most coveted players in the league and if Simmons wasn't out there blocking a ton of trades, Ayton wouldn't even be mentioned in this conversation.

By the time the deadline comes and some teams figure out they're toast, the offers will pick up. Right now, the Nets are running the same play the Sixers did last season. This will take a while.

Morey held on to Ben last year because he WAS NOT getting good offers for him …according to all reports that’s not the case with KD …holding onto him for the sake of holding on to him doesn’t make much sense when teams are lining up to give you incredible value because they think he puts them over the top …additionally it was reported that ownership is driving this breakup not the other way around

 

[Sghost597]

Morey held on to Ben last year because he WAS NOT getting good offers for him …according to all reports that’s not the case with KD …holding onto him for the sake of holding on to him doesn’t make much sense when teams are lining up to give you incredible value because they think he puts them over the top …additionally it was reported that ownership is driving this breakup not the other way around

Morey had to wait out on Brooklyn implosion. Which is the only thing that saved him from being completely embarrassed in this situation, but he probably had inside connection on the situation being toxic with the Nets.

If he was sitting on a pray with no inside information... That's a ballsy move.

 

[Left.A1]

Yeah, people saying "B-b--bu Kyrie is expiring!! If the Nets don't get rid of him now they'll end up with nothing!!!" don't understand how expiring contracts actually work. $37 million in expiring money at next year's deadline, with that all-time stacked draft class and LeBron's last free agency coming up in the offseason??? Kyrie could be in Ukraine forming a private militia to go free Brittney Griner and he'd still have a dozen suitors across the league just for the potential salary relief alone.

But if you only have 1 team interested in him now, the malcontent's preferred landing spot, and all you're being offered from them is garbage like Westbrick and a single pick?? Why wouldn't you pull a Morey and just wait it out till more people come calling? Kyrie would probably love to sit out half the season and tweet out his cryptic 3rd eye awakening bullshyt until then too, not like you have to worry about him injuring himself and hurting his value

Simmons was on a 4 year deal …Kyrie is expiring ..why would a team give up MORE for less contract control


And who are teams lining up to drop a bag on next free agent class that would motivate them to give up assets for a Kyrie expiring contract

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Simmons was on a 4 year deal …Kyrie is expiring ..why would a team give up MORE for less contract control


And who are teams lining up to drop a bag on next free agent class that would motivate them to give up assets for a Kyrie expiring contract

The majority if not all of the contenders are over the cap anyways to the point that Kyrie's expiring wouldn't make a difference to them lol.

 

[Sghost597]

Simmons was on a 4 year deal …Kyrie is expiring ..why would a team give up MORE for less contract control


And who are teams lining up to drop a bag on next free agent class that would motivate them to give up assets for a Kyrie expiring contract

What is contract control over Kyrie Irving? Honestly... I would be more scared of having him long term than short. I can at least dump him pretty easily.

 

[Left.A1]

Morey had to wait out on Brooklyn implosion. Which is the only thing that saved him from being completely embarrassed in this situation, but he probably had inside connection on the situation being toxic with the Nets.

It’s not really rocket science …Morey and execs like him have wayyyyy more information regarding the tea leaves than we do …but to add to that it’s not that hard to predict a star player becoming available at a trade deadline or the off-season with the way things have gone on the last few years …damn near every transition period like that has seen a big name wanting to be moved over the past few years …plus he had Ben under contract for several seasons so he could gamble with house money

 

[Left.A1]

Don't say contenders either as the majority if not all of them are over the cap anyways to the point that Kyrie's expiring wouldn't make a difference to them lol.

Huh?

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Huh?

That poster was saying that teams would be lining up to get Kyrie for the cap relief and I was agreeing your premise that the majority of teams that would want Kyrie are way over the cap anyways to the point that they wouldn't get cap relief even if they let him walk. For the teams that aren't, the FA next year isn't even that good anyways to justify giving up what it would take to get his expiring contract.