The Term African American Has Ran Its Course-The NYTimes

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It’s quite disconcerting how black folk don’t seem to understand the power of perception. Saying you are proud to be black implies you believe black to be all the worst stereotypes and that you have to validate yourself to others. And be honest with yourself. You say this because africa has not portrayed itself in redeeming light. I get that. But better believe you wouldn’t be talking that mess if africa had at least one first world country to boast about.
who told you what a first world country is?

if anything Africa has solutions to the worlds problems but the world isnt completely ready to consider it in that light

IE why does Genesis refer to the waters as "Ham-mayim" (black waters) rather than "Samayim"



Meaning Hot, or: Protective Wall
Etymology From the verb חם (ham), to be hot, or the verb חמה (hmh), to protect or surround.
 

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just put that "foundational" on it and your good to go
That is a valid label. That is why I do not complain about it or ADOS. Both are quite a bit more specific in their descriptions than what we are using now. Though, I do admit that FBA is a bit better than ADOS, because every descendent of slavery here in the Americas can claim ADOS too arguing they are from the American continents.
 
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who told you what a first world country is?

if anything Africa has solutions to the worlds problems but the world isnt completely ready to consider it in that light

IE why does Genesis refer to the waters as "Ham-mayim" (black waters) rather than "Samayim"



The world knows of Africa's solutions. I posted a thread of scientists saying that African DNA was necessary to help in the development of future drugs.

Everyone knows the benefits that the African soil and people hold except for the African people.

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I don't disagree...but does that mean we are "flat Americans"?
We actually are, even more so than every other group here but Indigenous people and WASPs. We were on this soul, before the US was formed. So yes, we really are just flat Americans. Still, we need a separation, because even White people will use flat American to slide in on our things. Hell, they already do it, since they have mastered culture thieving.
 

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What about the black immigrants like Jamaicans, Nigerians, and Haitians that surpass their Black American counterparts? :lupe:

When they see their own black folk from abroad doing ambitious things, what's running through their minds? :jbhmm:

And no, I ain't bashing Black Americans at all.

Exactly :ohlawd:

People want to escape any format of accountability. Even of white people stopped having the power, brehs still be making excuses in an all-black society. If they can't dead the negative habits now, it's gonna carry over to the newly successful black society and try to ruin it.

So how you explain the large numbers of Africans, Caribbean blacks, and other black immigrants surpassing Black Americans? :jbhmm:

Not just a small fraction, but huge numbers. How you explain that shyt?

how does using an ethnic identifier = hatred for Pan Africanism?

Only applies to Black Americans. Everybody else good :troll:
Don’t let that fake unity negro gaslight .This is what he really thinks of black Americans
 

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I don't disagree...but does that mean we are "flat Americans"?
Unironically just American.

So-called Black folk are indigenous to all known land masses that includes the America's.Listen I'm all for unity among the diaspora but in order to do that there needs to be some true understanding most of us are being lied to most of us are being played.


AMER'ICAN, noun A native of America; originally applied to the aboriginals, or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America.
1828
REMARKS ON SIERRA LEONE, 89

I shall add another reflection, of public utility. The Blacks are a kind of men destined by Nature to habit Africa and America ; she has created them.for burning regions: let us, therefore, take care not to oppose her views, or overthrow the barriers which she has established; but let us preserve their races in their natural purity, and not permit the Negroes to inhabit Europe. ‘This mixture of black and white is dangerous to our population, and in time it may change, corrupt, “and even destroy it.
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Don’t let that fake unity negro gaslight .This is what he really thinks of black Americans

@Wild self is as fake as they come. Just another disrespectful ass anti-ADOS poster.

And those Pan-African cats be everywhere but Africa talking about Pan-Africanism. Just a bunch of delusional negroes fantasizing about things they don't truly believe in.

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Basically another outsider trying to brainwash us into abandoning our roots and deny our African heritage.

:camby:

I am proud to be an African-American. I am proud to be black. My history will not be erased. A lot of self-hating black people want to deny being of African heritage but I ain't goin
 

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Afro American has the legacy of Brother Malcolm behind it. The idea of tying your struggle with the struggle of other Black people in the diaspora to have strength in numbers is still a good one. Recognizing that you’re of African descent doesn’t nullify your unique character as a group as far as I’m concerned.
 

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I’m no fan of performative identity politics, and I think racial preferences are long past their expiration date. Yet I don’t think the New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani did anything wrong when, as was reported last week, he checked off “Black or African American” on a college application. As a man of South Asian descent who spent the first part of his life living in Uganda, he was within his rights to call himself African American. The problem is that the term appeared on the application, or anywhere else. Plenty of Black people have never liked it, and ever more are joining the ranks. It’s time to let it go.

“African American” entered mainstream circulation in the late ’80s as a way to call attention to Black people’s heritage in the same way that terms like “Italian American” and “Asian American” do for members of those groups. The Rev. Jesse Jackson encouraged its usage, declaring: “Black does not describe our situation. In my household there are seven people and none of us have the same complexion. We are of African-American heritage.” In 1989 the columnist and historian Roger Wilkins told Isabel Wilkerson: “Whenever I go to Africa, I feel like a person with a legitimate place to stand on this earth. This is the name for all the feelings I’ve had all these years.”

Since that time, the United States has seen an enormous change in immigration patterns. In 1980 there were about 200,000 people in America who were born in Africa; by 2023 there were 2.8 million. So today, for people who were born in Africa, any children they have after moving here and Black people whose last African ancestors lived centuries ago, the term “African American” treats them as if they are all in the same category, forcing a single designation for an inconveniently disparate range of humans.

Further complicating matters is that many Africans now living here are not Black. White people from, for example, South Africa or Tanzania might also legitimately call themselves African American. As for the community that Mamdani grew up in, it dates back to at least the late 19th century, when South Asians were brought to Uganda to work as servants for British colonizers. “Mississippi Masala,” the movie for which Mamdani’s mother, the filmmaker Mira Nair, is perhaps best known, tells the story of South Asian Ugandans expelled from the country in 1972 by the dictator Idi Amin. Feeling just as dislocated from the only home they had ever known as I would feel if expelled from the United States, they would be quite reasonable in viewing themselves as African Americans after settling here.

A term that is meant to be descriptive but that can refer to Cedric the Entertainer, Trevor Noah, Elon Musk and Zohran Mamdani is a little silly.

And not just silly but chilly. “African American” sounds like something on a form. Or something vaguely euphemistic, as if you’re trying to avoid saying something out loud. It feels less like a term for the vibrant, nuanced bustle of being a human than like seven chalky syllables bureaucratically impervious to abbreviation. Italian Americans call themselves “Italian” for short. Asian Americans are “Asian.” But for any number of reasons, it’s hard to imagine a great many Black Americans opting to call themselves simply African.

You know why that's bullshyt. Because
  1. Indians have been known to pass themselves as Aframs or black without ever living 1 second on the continent.
  2. So seeing as there are lite-skin Indians and dark-skin Indians how long do you think it'll be before they start saying that they're black too.

Should Aframs have a specific and unique name for themselves? Yes. But the reason that this author gives is just a flimsy excuse to try to handwave what Mamdani did.
 
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