The U.S. has one of the stingiest minimum wage policies of any wealthy nation

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yeah, I didn't say anything about the minimum wage being the sole reason for wage stagnation. It's a factor and was proven in the 90s during the last increase that companies had to raise wages within for people making above the MW. It also helps competition in the market for people seeking jobs. There are many other factors such as the destruction of unions, younger people replacing older people in the market, and potential interest rate hikes, etc.

You seem to be coming at this more emotionally than I am though. At some point, the minimum wage will have to increase to reflect the times. Has nothing to do with being Mother Teresa-like or anything. If I'm understanding your perspective there shouldn't be a floor and we just let companies decide wages based on other metrics? Or is it "states rights?" Because, if it's still $7.25 in let's say 2050, that would be kind of ridiculous am I right?

1. I'm not against MW, entirely.

2. I support as small of a MW increase as possible...for the sake of minorities and the working poor. Its their jobs at stake, not mine.

3. I think a culture change is what will fix stagnant wages

4. I think there is a profound misunderstanding of what MW is meant to represent in the eyes of the law and that many people cling to it as a means of absolving themselves of systemic economic reform in places that really affect people's lives. You don't work for MW. I don't work for MW. But why are wages stagnant? Its clearly from the core of the organizations we work for. Think THAT way and you may find more insight.

5. If I'm so "emotional," why am I the only one in here with data and sources to substantiate my arguments?

 

[Anhur]

How old are you? Because you're really not trying too hard in this debate.

Yes. I know 7 is less than 15.

Now why not $10.10? And then if certain cities can afford $15, they can pay $15?

Why double the MW in places that can't afford it? And why do you think all MW is manual labor?

You're right about that. All states should raise the minimum wage as much as they can afford. California and New York should make their minimum wage 15$-17$ while poorer states like Mississipi and Arkansas should make it 10$.
All MW jobs need a short time to train their employees while jobs that pay more usually need some years education to be qualified for the job.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're right about that. All states should raise the minimum wage as much as they can afford. California and New York should make their minimum wage 15$-17$ while poorer states like Mississipi and Arkansas should make it 10$.
All MW jobs need a short time to train their employees while jobs that pay more usually need some years education to be qualified for the job.

You're speaking so generally I dont think you really understand the topic.

MW jobs aren't necessarily unskilled jobs.

 

[Anhur]

You're speaking so generally I dont think you really understand the topic.

MW jobs aren't necessarily unskilled jobs.

You're deflecting. Instead of accepting defeat gracefully you are using troll-like tactics.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're deflecting. Instead of accepting defeat gracefully you are using troll-like tactics.

Defeat...of what?

You're just saying generic college freshman shyt.

Yes, big numbers are bigger than small numbers

Paying people more is good

Yeah, I get it

 

[StatUS]

1. I'm not against MW, entirely.

2. I support as small of a MW increase as possible...for the sake of minorities and the working poor. Its their jobs at stake, not mine.

3. I think a culture change is what will fix stagnant wages

4. I think there is a profound misunderstanding of what MW is meant to represent in the eyes of the law and that many people cling to it as a means of absolving themselves of systemic economic reform in places that really affect people's lives. You don't work for MW. I don't work for MW. But why are wages stagnant? Its clearly from the core of the organizations we work for. Think THAT way and you may find more insight.

I'll put it like this man, which is my initial point.

The amount of people who actually make minimum wage is a small percentage, true. Yet there is a large percentage of the American public that works low wage jobs.

With the minimum wage stuck at poverty levels, there's no incentive to raise the wages of those workers when the reference is so low.

Incrementally just raising it to like $9 or whatever ain't going to do shyt in this economy for anyone of those people when their taxes get raised and they're footing the bill in this country thanks to the GOP. We're talking about 30 to 40 million people here. And not kids but adults 30 to 40 years old.

Now you say there are other ways and that is a nice point but it is sort of a deflection when this way would be an assurance that things improve.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'll put it like this man, which is my initial point.

The amount of people who actually make minimum wage is a small percentage. Yet there is a large percentage of the American public that works low wage jobs.

YES! and the MW doesn't fix that!

With the minimum wage stuck at poverty levels, there's no incentive to raise the wages of those workers when the reference is so low.

and you won't fix that by just jacking the MW up.

Incrementally just raising it to like $9 or whatever ain't going to do shyt in this economy for anyone of those people. We're talking about 30 to 40 million people here.
And not kids but people 30 to 40 years old.

Now you say there are other ways and that is a nice point but it is sort of a deflection when this way would be an assurance that things improve.

There ARE other ways:

1. EITC
2. Industry specific MW's
3. Actually pushing for middle income wage increases
4. Unprecedented government overhaul in company affairs

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

$14.75

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

$14.75

Try three square meals and a cot?

 

[StatUS]

YES! and the MW doesn't fix that!

and you won't fix that by just jacking the MW up.


There ARE other ways:

1. EITC
2. Industry specific MW's
3. Actually pushing for middle income wage increases
4. Unprecedented government overhaul in company affairs

1. Conservatives love the EITC vs MW argument but don't realize it doesn't raise wages. It's cost-effective which is usually their point but they can both be expanded. Either-or is no different than Romney's 47 percent bs.
2. Cool, I guess, but then which industries? Because NYC did fast food I think and surely burger flippers didn't deserve more than some sales manager at Best Buy? Also states can go above the federal floor after it's raised.
3. We can walk and chew gum at the same time.
4. I like the idea of money out of politics, raising the corporate tax rate, and closing loopholes. But those are a bigger fight than the subject here imo.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

This is NOT Austrian economics


I’m NOT a Conservetive

 

[tru_m.a.c]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Voters are stupid.

And?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is NOT Austrian economics


I’m NOT a Conservetive

Yeah because a conservative holds these positions:

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/27766384/

• I support a heavy estate tax.

• I support increased spending on social programs.

• I support increased spending and investment on infrastructure

• I support increased spending on and a complete revamping of the healthcare system

You're trying too hard

 

[Pressure]

@4d 6f 6e 65 79 do you think the current system is helping or hurting the majority of Americans?

Do you believe 7 dollars an hour is enough money to put food on the table, put shelter over your head, and cloth you and your children AND be able to develop the skills/education needed to move on from minimum wage jobs?