The U.S. has one of the stingiest minimum wage policies of any wealthy nation

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@4d 6f 6e 65 79 do you think the current system is helping or hurting the majority of Americans?

Do you believe 7 dollars an hour is enough money to put food on the table, put shelter over your head, and cloth you and your children AND be able to develop the skills/education needed to move on from minimum wage jobs?
1. I support a modest MW increase
2. A MW was never meant to provide Maslow's hierarchy.
3. I don't know what you mean by vague statements like "current system helping or hurting majority of Americans"...thats just specious populist trap questions. Get specific. I can't take that sort of ambiguous talk seriously. It smacks of frustration and rage, not measured serious dialogue.
4. If you're raising kids on MW, thats a problem. And its largely your problem.
 

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1. I support a modest MW increase
2. A MW was never meant to provide Maslow's hierarchy.
3. I don't know what you mean by vague statements like "current system helping or hurting majority of Americans"...thats just specious populist trap questions. Get specific. I can't take that sort of ambiguous talk seriously. It smacks of frustration and rage, not measured serious dialogue.
4. If you're raising kids on MW, thats a problem. And its largely your problem.
Do you think labor is receiving their fair share of profits? You've suggested wages need to be raised across the board. You've mentioned that MW increases don't do this, you've also mentioned disproportionate executive pay.

It seems you've answered all your questions, but for some reason you are still arguing.
 

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Do you think labor is receiving their fair share of profits? You've suggested wages need to be raised across the board. You've mentioned that MW increases don't do this, you've also mentioned disproportionate executive pay.

It seems you've answered all your questions, but for some reason you are still arguing.
I mean theres alternatives like how Germany mandates employees have more of a say in management and profits Codetermination in Germany - Wikipedia

This thread is about MW. STAY FOCUSED. I'm doing you a favor.
 

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I mean theres alternatives like how Germany mandates employees have more of a say in management and profits Codetermination in Germany - Wikipedia

This thread is about MW. STAY FOCUSED. I'm doing you a favor.
No you're not.
The conversation about MW isn't about some arbitrary number.

Interestingly, I've seem you criticize people by saying what's a livable wage by saying you can't define it, but then turn around and say you support a modest increase without ever defining modest or the expectation of what that modest increase should accomplish.

But let's get back track. The MW increase discussion is and has been for some time a workers rights and standard of living discussion. By refusing to discuss either of these you're not having an honest conversation with regard to MW.
 

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Do you think labor is receiving their fair share of profits? You've suggested wages need to be raised across the board. You've mentioned that MW increases don't do this, you've also mentioned disproportionate executive pay.

It seems you've answered all your questions, but for some reason you are still arguing.
what did you, just meet this guy :skip:
 

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No you're not.
The conversation about MW isn't about some arbitrary number.

Interestingly, I've seem you criticize people by saying what's a livable wage by saying you can't define it, but then turn around and say you support a modest increase without ever defining modest or the expectation of what that modest increase should accomplish.

But let's get back track. The MW increase discussion is and has been for some time a workers rights and standard of living discussion. By refusing to discuss either of these you're not having an honest conversation with regard to MW.
Dude, you can't DOUBLE the MW federally then be surprised when some places have to step back form the ledge or when minorities/poor get fired.

The market pressure that permit MW jobs just can't handle fukking DOUBLING of wage floors.

I do not, nor will I ever see the MW as a discussion about a "living wage"

A 16 year old should not be held to the same social financial rewards of a 25 year old unskilled laborer...or a 50 year old one.

The discussion about MW is popular because it appeals to the people who know the least about the economy, it requires no real research, it appeals to the most emotionally swayed and provides the most tangible example of "caring" about others without actually addressing real middle-wage growth and earnings by the vast majority of workers.
 

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When I first saw this thread I thought " I wonder if nap is going to thread bomb in here?". And here we are.:russ:


Anyways, wages in America are frighteningly low, but on the flip side increasing too much them will have negative effects on business. I believe the only solution is for the government to take ownership away from the rich and redistribute it. Will never happen though.
 

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Dude, you can't DOUBLE the MW federally then be surprised when some places have to step back form the ledge or when minorities/poor get fired.

The market pressure that permit MW jobs just can't handle fukking DOUBLING of wage floors.

I do not, nor will I ever see the MW as a discussion about a "living wage"

A 16 year old should not be held to the same social financial rewards of a 25 year old unskilled laborer...or a 50 year old one.

The discussion about MW is popular because it appeals to the people who know the least about the economy, it requires no real research, it appeals to the most emotionally swayed and provides the most tangible example of "caring" about others without actually addressing real middle-wage growth and earnings by the vast majority of workers.
2% of employees make MW.

Remember that when you try to confront wage stagnation

:sas2:

So your solution to the struggles of poor people is to keep them poor?
 

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Nap thinks he's slick. If you rase MW to 15 you're not just giving a wage increase to those who are currently making min wage. You're also giving a wage increase to everyone making less than 15.


You need to run your numbers again.
 

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Nap thinks he's slick. If you rase MW to 15 you're not just giving a wage increase to those who are currently making min wage. You're also giving a wage increase to everyone making less than 15.


You need to run your numbers again.

also its common knowledge that the lower and middle classes spend more/all of their income
generating economic productivity in their neighborhoods, cities, states

if more poor people made $15 an hour
the demand would be there for more jobs and services
 
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