The White Flight From Football

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

That dude got let go at the most known high school in Alabama "Hoover High" because of stuff going on with him. Think he had a family on the side and everything. He went on to find a job in Georgia though.

He is an animal that purports himself to be a sentient human being

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[The ADD]

....as opposed to?

No sport is a high value wager

Alot of smart kids still have to take out loans

The small academic scholarships help but again high value as opposed to?

That depends.. with all the small schools and junior colleges with sports programs, there's a decent shot. I'm not talking decent shot at NFL. I'm talking decent shot at FREE education.

If it’s solely based on athletics then that’s the fallacy. Education as the foundation and then athletics as that fulcrum is the safest play. Point being that you can’t say football is going to get me there and not do the work that will help you leverage the scholarship.

We aren’t really saying different things. I think it’s safe to say that the focus on getting the scholarship skips over the education piece until it’s a little too late. Especially in situation where the kid doesn’t have a realistic path to the NFL.

 

[Phitz]

I agree. Our kids would beast in that sport. The problem is that there’s not a lot of examples of AAs excelling in that sport that would influence kids to wanna play. And it’s not like it’s the most popular sport in America to begin with. Soccer desperately needs a mainstream AA superstar

It's growing among African Americans in this young generation. I saw several playing down south. They were even knowledgeable about the EPL and Champions league games. The best players tend to go to Europe and play in their development leagues, that's why you don't hear about them in media here. Other's play well at the university level, but yeah not much after that unless they go to Europe then come back now to America's MLS, but MLS is not on the same level as the Euro leagues currently.

 

[Jhoon]

It’s crazy how we used to dominate baseball. I think part of the reason it’s not as popular with our kids anymore is that it’s not as popular as it used to be in general. I think I’m part of that last generation that cared about baseball. The best players in the game were black. Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr., Albert Bell. Now the best black players speak Spanish

It’s simple. The cities took back their parks.

 

[Phitz]

If it’s solely based on athletics then that’s the fallacy. Education as the foundation and then athletics as that fulcrum is the safest play. Point being that you can’t say football is going to get me there and not do the work that will help you leverage the scholarship.

We aren’t really saying different things. I think it’s safe to say that the focus on getting the scholarship skips over the education piece until it’s a little too late. Especially in situation where the kid doesn’t have a realistic path to the NFL.

The education piece has made huge strides and alot of players it's a given that the grades will be there. They're smart enough in this day and age to know that they have to have the grades to even be considered for a scholarship.

 

[Chrishaune]

if you notice white parents are now actually signing their kids up for basketball. They're putting their kids into expensive programs that give them skills by people who helped train professionals and collegic players. They're using money to start to box blacks put of basketball.

Height and talent will still be their ultimate hurdle after the skills aspect. They won't be able to out athlete the best black players.

 

[reasonable_doubter]

Height and talent will still be their ultimate hurdle after the skills aspect. They won't be able to out athlete the best black players.

....its odd they arent more young black guys in the military special forces... they have the physicality for it

 

[JLova]

Majority of the players are black. Majority of the staff is white.

 

[FaTaL]

if you notice white parents are now actually signing their kids up for basketball. They're putting their kids into expensive programs that give them skills by people who helped train professionals and collegic players. They're using money to start to put blacks out of basketball.

let me fix it for you

and

amin

• FaTaL
• Mar 3, 2016

money makes no difference when you gotta compete against dudes like zion

 

[Sukairain]

Here's a thought, how much would the nature of the sport change if the protective equipment was taken away?

Rugby league revolves around tackling and physical contact just the same as NFL, and CTE and spinal injuries are major problems but statistically it's safer than NFL. This is partially because nobody wears any protective gear. It means tackling technique has to be perfect or you risk injuring yourself not just the guy you're tackling. Also it means that there's less weight transfer in a tackle; less momentum because you aren't throwing a lot of extra bulk from the protective equipment into a tackle.

The most important thing is no helmets, because having that artificial protection emboldens and enables players to take risks with their heads which they wouldn't otherwise.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

let me fix it for you

and

amin

• FaTaL
• Mar 3, 2016

money makes no difference when you gotta compete against dudes like zion

The owner of the Dallas MAGAricks will show cacs the way

 

[get these nets]

Not sure if this was brought up yet, but I heard it multiple times from classmates who attended top prep schools.
The easiest Division 1 scholarship to get, relatively, is for lacrosse.
VERY few high schools field lacrosse teams, and the very best athletes don't play that sport in the schools that do have a program.

 

[Frangala]

Time to just pivot away from sports and/or entertainment as being so integral to the community. The argument that somehow most of these families and people are using sports to get an education in case Plan A (going pro) fails is not a valid one in my opinion.

Div I collegiate athletics is a full time job and kids struggle academically because of it and sometimes do not graduate. Others are encouraged to take noncompetitive easy workloads ( i.e when people talk about these guys taking basketweaving major) just to keep up with the demand of big time college athletics despite the available tutors and resources that these players have.

You go to school playing college sports that demand a lot of you. You take on a bullshyt major which will not earn you a lot of money in the labor market and your chances of going pro are slim. A lost of those elite athletes know damn well education is not the primary goal they are trying to play ball and try to make a living off of it but there aren't people in their corner family included who are realistic with them.

This also ties in with this Americsn infatuation of reaching wealth through sports and entertainment at a young age. Most people who make tons of money in their fields "make it" in the their 40s 50s in terms of big time wealth but sports and entertainment distort that that's why these kids and families see it as the quickest and fastest way to be upwardly mobile.

 

[FaTaL]

Not sure if this was brought up yet, but I heard it multiple times from classmates who attended top prep schools.
The easiest Division 1 scholarship to get, relatively, is for lacrosse.
VERY few high schools field lacrosse teams, and the very best athletes don't play that sport in the schools that do have a program.

i always felt that lacrosse could be the next sport to rise up, i really like the speed and contact but theres just no money in it right now.