I understand the resume talk, but what actual skills does he have? I honestly dont remember much about him since colorado
There have been a lot of whispers that Eric Bieniamy won't land a HC job again this year
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again flawed logic
“Lions have hired a couple of black guys in the past, therefore, because he didn’t get the Lions job, he’s the problem.”
Listen man, black coaches are fully aware that owners will put this “ doesn’t interview well” out there, and that it’s a running joke. Hell Tony Dungy said he had the exact same bull shyt stigma on him.
Based on the responses, y’all really act as if these black coaches are completely unaware, and come in these interviews unprepared, because a WHITE man told you that.
Fast forward to the 2 min mark. They even talk about it here.
EB being the OC of the most dynamic offense in the past 20 years speak to his skills. Andy can call all of the plays in the world, but that's only the final 5% of what it takes to set up an actual offense. Andy's offenses weren't known for being dynamic. They were always stable west coast offenses, not a lot of deep routes, lots of safe options. All of a sudden EB becomes the OC and they have an attacking offense and Mahomes gets 50 TDs out of nowhere and it's been high powered since then. Ask Eagle fans about THE Andy Reid offense. Nagy and Pederson didn't call plays neither, but their offenses weren't clicking like this.
The fact that you're searching to dig on his skills speaks to why it's nuts he doesn't have a HC job. Do you ask the same question of Dan Campbell? Who's a career position coach? Can you name a good TE for the Saints or Dolphins where he coached?
Catching over 100 balls will help a QB improve his completion percentage. It's a combination of the QB improving but also having a weapons upgrade.
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No, flawed logic is to assume that we are going to get screwed over every single time because we are black. If that were the case, we'd all be unemployed.
That said, all of this is good and well but just like Rob said, in this video, he said that he just might not be able to articulate himself. There are people here that can't even fathom that to be a possibility here or entertain the fact that the resume is due to a heavy dose of Andy Reid. So am I denying that bullshyt gets pulled on us in regards to interviews? No, I am not but I'm am saying that in this case with the spotlight as bright as it is, many more opportunities, avenues for leeway were probably afforded for him during this particular cycle that aren't typically given. I can see this for other people in this cycle, not him. The league and it's media basically wants him to be a coach and he's not it yet. I'm going to lay most of the blame at his feet because for one reason or another, it hasn't happened yet.
please understand I ask what I ask because i actually want to know. it sounds like you know a lot more than I do about setting up an offense than I do. from your perspective what is it in particular that EB brings to the table that makes them so explosive? as a casual observer of the chiefs I seem to notice the speed and seemingly increased aggressiveness. Is it more than that?
I will say that I cant see me hiring a position coach as HC under any circumstances.
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Agree. I also don't think this scenario is EITHER/OR .
Any organization with success will immediately have members of their on field talent,coaches, and front office recruited by other franchises
Bienamy has had the ultimate success for his job description. #1 offense, Pro bowl players, MVP player.....all developed under him. SuperBowl Ring also.
He has certainly been recruited by other organizations. Tony Dungy has long been a proponent of coaches and OC/DC taking as many interviews as possible to get a feel for the process. Him fighting for the Rooney Rule was so that more minority coaches get brought in to experience that process.
People are individuals and have strengths and weaknesses. Black coaches with less of a resume than EB have gotten hired, possibly due to stronger interviews or a better fit for the franchise. Tony Dungy's coaching tree includes Herm Edwards and Mike Tomlin. Tomlin wasn't as accomplished a Coordinator as EB and Edwards was a position coach before he became a head coach.
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Basically, an offense (and defense) is mostly effective when all of the players on the offense are on the same page. It's weird hearing TV commentators speak of how the QB reads the defense when in actuality it's the entire offense that's reading the field. In an NFL offense, a pass can have up to three options in a playcall (1. The primary route 2. A pre-snap adjust 3. A post-snap sight adjust). The more simple offenses only have the primary route. A more complex offense will have the first two (pre-snap adjustments are commonly known as audibles). The unstoppable offense has all three options. The post-snap sight adjust is the hardest thing to teach because it requires everyone running routes to be able to read the defense as well as the QB can AND that the WRs & QBs are understanding the defense in the same way that leads to the same conclusion. The WR is reading the defense while running the route while the QB is in the pocket and if they're off it leads to chaos at worst and ineptness at best.
Kansas City's offense is the way it is because they have talent, but their talent also understands the defense in the same way. Mahomes + Kelce + Tyreek essentially operate as if they're three people connected with the same brain. Just in this game today Kelce + Tyreek have been running routes and changed immediately based on what they saw the defense doing, Mahomes saw the same thing, and it led to a few big plays. Imagine an offense where the players are solving the defense mid-play. That's essentially what makes them so unstoppable. The person who is primarily responsible for coaching the players to have the same understanding, to allow for the post-snap adjustments, is the offensive coordinator through the offseason and during the week when installing the game plan. Some offensive minded head coaches will pop in on stuff, but what you see on Sunday is the culmination of the OC's coaching for the most part.
People who do all of this shyt for a living are around football enough to know "Andy Reid calls the plays though" isn't why the offense do what it does and they also know that Mahomes wasn't some can't miss prospect. Mahomes had to be coached to the point of where he is now.
If I were the Chargers I would hire him immediately because they'd get insight on the Chiefs offense, weaken the Chiefs by taking away an asset, and strengthen their own squad with a coach who understands how to teach talented offensive players.
Thread giving me PTSD from the last job interview I took
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Cot damn
I know the Lions locker room thinking they went from one meathead to another
nikkas in this thread making 1k different reasons why a super bowl winning OC shouldn't have a chance at HC. 
Whole point of hiring Andy Reid is you know he calling the plays? Does this guy every call any of the plays? Maybe Andy should let him get a game or two if not.
at the end of the day if eric bienemy was white there is no way on earth he wouldn't have a HC job yet