neiron ball out 4 weeks. ray ray burris back in the game.
nate allen back practicing though.
nate allen back practicing though.
"They Don't Know Its Us, Not Like Were The Raiders" Official 2016 Oakland Raiders Off-Season Thread
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Fade Runner 2049
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Just noticed the raiders have no Sunday night or Monday night games, only prime time game is a Thursday, that's 
Just noticed the raiders have no Sunday night or Monday night games, only prime time game is a Thursday, that's
Good let us get better before we play those prime time games
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He fukked up plenty of times in Frisco, yea they made a mistake of letting him go over this last situation cuz it wasn't serious but it was time for a change of scenery regardlessi think they already have a good chance. he likes the support system he has in the bay and Oakland is on the come up. he definitely ain't going back to san fran with kap fukkin with his ex and shyt.
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fukking dumbasses cut him for no reason and thought they had a great chance at getting him this off season.
breh ain't even getting suspended.
to that jack del rio research team.
yeah i meant that last situation. he definitely needed a change if scenery though.
i think the last Monday night game jon condo got injured and special teams set the tone for the rest of the season. definitely finna be there next season though.
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Does Khalil Mack lack pass rush technique?
The Oakland Raiders are lucky to have Khalil Mack. He has solidified a portion of their run game and is going to be a solid player for years to come, But fans want him to be a superstar. A major force against the pass, to go with his great run stopping ability.
However, if this is to be achieved for Mack and he is to reach true superstar status, he desperately needs to develop his pass rushing techniques.
Mack has not recorded a sack in four of the Raiders six games this year. According to Pro Football Focus he has not recorded a QB hit in five of those six games. He only has three sacks through six games, recording two against the Browns and one against the Bears. PFF does have him down for 23 QB hurries, tied for 3rd most in the NFL for outside linebackers in a 3-4 defense. The hurries are subjective and I don’t really hang my hat on that stat.
I watched every pass rush for Khalil Mack this year and his problem is strictly technique. He tries the same half bull rush, half speed rush every single time. He punches first and then tries speed around the blocker. Without fail, every time.
The offensive tackles blocking him don’t ever have to worry about anything different. So they dig in for the punch and then push him around the outside of the pocket. To make matters worse his technique on the speed rush is horrible. He doesn’t dip his inside shoulder low enough to get under the tackles pad level, so he gets pushed around the outside of the QB.
He has tried a spin move three times. Against the Browns and it produced one of his three sacks this year. Against the Bears and he fell on his face. Against the Chargers, again to no avail, as he sort of stopped half way through it. He executed proper speed rushing technique on one play against the Browns, which led to Aldon Smith’s sack at the end of the first half.
Mack has been having such poor production against the tackles that the Raiders moved him inside against a guard, next to Aldon, against the Chargers. They must figure his bull rush is better suited inside if that’s all he can do. He still had satisfactory production, producing one holding call and a possible hurry. Just like the tackles, the guard dug in his heels on the second rush, because he knew what was coming.
This coaching staff is not helping Khalil either. They obviously have not worked well enough with him on technique, as it shows on Sundays. They also are not running enough line stunts to try and get him advantageous angles against opposing lineman. It’s obvious they see his struggles on film, but they have not been able to fix it. That’s one knock I have on this coaching staff so far this season.
As I have said before, Khalil needs to dedicate time to perfect a minimum of three pass rushing techniques. I suggest the Reggie White forearm club, the Dwight Freeney spin and the LT hand swipe speed rush. Add in your standard bull rush and this is a full complement of moves that will keep every tackle in the league guessing. If he is to be great, that has to be his focus for the remainder of the year and every offseason. To develop his pass rushing techniques into an All-Pro level.
Mack just isn't a natural pass rusher, we need him back at linebacker
The Oakland Raiders are lucky to have Khalil Mack. He has solidified a portion of their run game and is going to be a solid player for years to come, But fans want him to be a superstar. A major force against the pass, to go with his great run stopping ability.
However, if this is to be achieved for Mack and he is to reach true superstar status, he desperately needs to develop his pass rushing techniques.
Mack has not recorded a sack in four of the Raiders six games this year. According to Pro Football Focus he has not recorded a QB hit in five of those six games. He only has three sacks through six games, recording two against the Browns and one against the Bears. PFF does have him down for 23 QB hurries, tied for 3rd most in the NFL for outside linebackers in a 3-4 defense. The hurries are subjective and I don’t really hang my hat on that stat.
I watched every pass rush for Khalil Mack this year and his problem is strictly technique. He tries the same half bull rush, half speed rush every single time. He punches first and then tries speed around the blocker. Without fail, every time.
The offensive tackles blocking him don’t ever have to worry about anything different. So they dig in for the punch and then push him around the outside of the pocket. To make matters worse his technique on the speed rush is horrible. He doesn’t dip his inside shoulder low enough to get under the tackles pad level, so he gets pushed around the outside of the QB.
He has tried a spin move three times. Against the Browns and it produced one of his three sacks this year. Against the Bears and he fell on his face. Against the Chargers, again to no avail, as he sort of stopped half way through it. He executed proper speed rushing technique on one play against the Browns, which led to Aldon Smith’s sack at the end of the first half.
Mack has been having such poor production against the tackles that the Raiders moved him inside against a guard, next to Aldon, against the Chargers. They must figure his bull rush is better suited inside if that’s all he can do. He still had satisfactory production, producing one holding call and a possible hurry. Just like the tackles, the guard dug in his heels on the second rush, because he knew what was coming.
This coaching staff is not helping Khalil either. They obviously have not worked well enough with him on technique, as it shows on Sundays. They also are not running enough line stunts to try and get him advantageous angles against opposing lineman. It’s obvious they see his struggles on film, but they have not been able to fix it. That’s one knock I have on this coaching staff so far this season.
As I have said before, Khalil needs to dedicate time to perfect a minimum of three pass rushing techniques. I suggest the Reggie White forearm club, the Dwight Freeney spin and the LT hand swipe speed rush. Add in your standard bull rush and this is a full complement of moves that will keep every tackle in the league guessing. If he is to be great, that has to be his focus for the remainder of the year and every offseason. To develop his pass rushing techniques into an All-Pro level.
Mack just isn't a natural pass rusher, we need him back at linebacker
I've seen him do the spin though, he might not got the sacks but he got them hurries. l i think nikkas just forgot it's only his second year, that's my favorite part though. coop, carr, mack, they already beasting, imagine when they hit they prime though.
Mark Davis says he's committed to keeping Raiders in Oakland
1h - NFL OAKLAND RAIDERS
OAKLAND, Calif. -- Raiders owner Mark Davis made a surprise appearance at an NFL-sponsored town hall meeting Thursday night and said he is still committed to keeping his team in Oakland.
Nearly 400 people filed into the downtown Paramount Theater for the scheduled three-hour event designed to give fans a chance to voice their opinions about the Raiders' potential move to Los Angeles.
Mayor Libby Schaaf and Eric Grubman, the NFL's point man on Los Angeles, also attended the meeting along with two other representatives from the league.
Davis received a standing ovation when he was introduced to the crowd. The owner initially said he wouldn't take questions but grabbed the microphone early to address questions about his desire to keep the team in Oakland.
Specifically, fans questioned Davis' desire to remain in Northern California while at the same time working on a joint deal with the San Diego Chargers to build a $1.7 billion stadium in Carson.
This was the third of three town hall meetings held in cities where teams are seeking new stadiums. The NFL met with fans in St. Louis on Tuesday and in San Diego on Wednesday.
Unlike the meeting in San Diego when a representative from the Chargers was greeted by thunderous boos, the crowd was civil yet enthusiastic as fans -- some of them wearing face paint and others in decorative outfits -- filed to a pair of podiums to speak.
A few hecklers yelled out but were quickly quieted as Davis spoke after sitting with team president Marc Badain and listening to the comments for nearly 30 minutes.
One man spoke calmly and passionately then brought the crowd to its feet again when he said, "Why can't we find the financing to keep them in the Bay Area?"
Davis, who has publicly stated his primary goal is to keep the team where it is, said the team has exhausted attempts to do just that.
"We need help from the community as well to get something that our fans in Oakland can be proud of," Davis said. "We don't have that right now and we want it. It can be done in Oakland. We've talked to three mega developers to get this going. We have been trying for at least the past six years, every day, hundreds of hours, to try to get something done here in Oakland."
The Raiders and Chargers have been taking preliminary steps in anticipation of getting approval to move to Los Angeles. They announced plans for a joint stadium in Carson in February in response to the stated desire of St. Louis Ramsowner Stan Kroenke to build a new stadium in Inglewood.
The Raiders have already set up offices in Los Angeles and are looking for additional space should they receive permission by the rest of the NFL owners to move to Southern California for a second time. Davis' father, Hall of Famer Al Davis, moved the Raiders to Los Angeles following the 1981 season before moving them back to Oakland in 1995.
"We didn't come here to offer a solution," Grubman told the crowd. "We came here to listen to you. If this were a waste of time, we wouldn't be here."
A decision which team, or which two, will be permitted to move to Los Angeles could come as early as next year.
Fans in Oakland hope it doesn't come to that and are optimistic a deal can still be done to keep the Raiders where they are.
"We're not that far off here in Oakland," said Gary Dowell of nearby San Leandro. "We're one or two pieces away from making everything fall into place. We also want the NFL to realize that you've done this before. You tried to take them to L.A. and make it work, and it didn't."
Other fans said they're empathetic to the Raiders' desire to seek a new stadium. Their current stadium, the Oakland Coliseum, was built in 1966 and has been plagued by numerous plumbing and other problems over the past decade.
The Raiders are also the only NFL team currently sharing a field with a baseball team. The Oakland Athletics also play at the Coliseum.
"That whole, 'It's not viable in Oakland' makes no sense," said Justaval Mendoza, who lives in Santa Rosa about an hour north of the Coliseum. "I'm not from Oakland. I come up here, I spend my money here. If the Coliseum complex was actually fixed up and we had a place to eat, we'd waste our money there, too. But they don't, so we drive straight into games and drive straight back."
1h - NFL OAKLAND RAIDERS
- Associated Press
OAKLAND, Calif. -- Raiders owner Mark Davis made a surprise appearance at an NFL-sponsored town hall meeting Thursday night and said he is still committed to keeping his team in Oakland.
Nearly 400 people filed into the downtown Paramount Theater for the scheduled three-hour event designed to give fans a chance to voice their opinions about the Raiders' potential move to Los Angeles.
Mayor Libby Schaaf and Eric Grubman, the NFL's point man on Los Angeles, also attended the meeting along with two other representatives from the league.
Davis received a standing ovation when he was introduced to the crowd. The owner initially said he wouldn't take questions but grabbed the microphone early to address questions about his desire to keep the team in Oakland.
Specifically, fans questioned Davis' desire to remain in Northern California while at the same time working on a joint deal with the San Diego Chargers to build a $1.7 billion stadium in Carson.
This was the third of three town hall meetings held in cities where teams are seeking new stadiums. The NFL met with fans in St. Louis on Tuesday and in San Diego on Wednesday.
Unlike the meeting in San Diego when a representative from the Chargers was greeted by thunderous boos, the crowd was civil yet enthusiastic as fans -- some of them wearing face paint and others in decorative outfits -- filed to a pair of podiums to speak.
A few hecklers yelled out but were quickly quieted as Davis spoke after sitting with team president Marc Badain and listening to the comments for nearly 30 minutes.
One man spoke calmly and passionately then brought the crowd to its feet again when he said, "Why can't we find the financing to keep them in the Bay Area?"
Davis, who has publicly stated his primary goal is to keep the team where it is, said the team has exhausted attempts to do just that.
"We need help from the community as well to get something that our fans in Oakland can be proud of," Davis said. "We don't have that right now and we want it. It can be done in Oakland. We've talked to three mega developers to get this going. We have been trying for at least the past six years, every day, hundreds of hours, to try to get something done here in Oakland."
The Raiders and Chargers have been taking preliminary steps in anticipation of getting approval to move to Los Angeles. They announced plans for a joint stadium in Carson in February in response to the stated desire of St. Louis Ramsowner Stan Kroenke to build a new stadium in Inglewood.
The Raiders have already set up offices in Los Angeles and are looking for additional space should they receive permission by the rest of the NFL owners to move to Southern California for a second time. Davis' father, Hall of Famer Al Davis, moved the Raiders to Los Angeles following the 1981 season before moving them back to Oakland in 1995.
"We didn't come here to offer a solution," Grubman told the crowd. "We came here to listen to you. If this were a waste of time, we wouldn't be here."
A decision which team, or which two, will be permitted to move to Los Angeles could come as early as next year.
Fans in Oakland hope it doesn't come to that and are optimistic a deal can still be done to keep the Raiders where they are.
"We're not that far off here in Oakland," said Gary Dowell of nearby San Leandro. "We're one or two pieces away from making everything fall into place. We also want the NFL to realize that you've done this before. You tried to take them to L.A. and make it work, and it didn't."
Other fans said they're empathetic to the Raiders' desire to seek a new stadium. Their current stadium, the Oakland Coliseum, was built in 1966 and has been plagued by numerous plumbing and other problems over the past decade.
The Raiders are also the only NFL team currently sharing a field with a baseball team. The Oakland Athletics also play at the Coliseum.
"That whole, 'It's not viable in Oakland' makes no sense," said Justaval Mendoza, who lives in Santa Rosa about an hour north of the Coliseum. "I'm not from Oakland. I come up here, I spend my money here. If the Coliseum complex was actually fixed up and we had a place to eat, we'd waste our money there, too. But they don't, so we drive straight into games and drive straight back."
that game.
lions
chargers.
Rolando McClain on megatron brehs.
I was at that Lions game. Had some great seats. I caught DHB when he jumped in the Black Hole after he took a slant for about 30-40 yards to the end zone.
Only problem was I also had a front row view of McClain on Megatron
Does Khalil Mack lack pass rush technique?
The Oakland Raiders are lucky to have Khalil Mack. He has solidified a portion of their run game and is going to be a solid player for years to come, But fans want him to be a superstar. A major force against the pass, to go with his great run stopping ability.
However, if this is to be achieved for Mack and he is to reach true superstar status, he desperately needs to develop his pass rushing techniques.
Mack has not recorded a sack in four of the Raiders six games this year. According to Pro Football Focus he has not recorded a QB hit in five of those six games. He only has three sacks through six games, recording two against the Browns and one against the Bears. PFF does have him down for 23 QB hurries, tied for 3rd most in the NFL for outside linebackers in a 3-4 defense. The hurries are subjective and I don’t really hang my hat on that stat.
I watched every pass rush for Khalil Mack this year and his problem is strictly technique. He tries the same half bull rush, half speed rush every single time. He punches first and then tries speed around the blocker. Without fail, every time.
The offensive tackles blocking him don’t ever have to worry about anything different. So they dig in for the punch and then push him around the outside of the pocket. To make matters worse his technique on the speed rush is horrible. He doesn’t dip his inside shoulder low enough to get under the tackles pad level, so he gets pushed around the outside of the QB.
He has tried a spin move three times. Against the Browns and it produced one of his three sacks this year. Against the Bears and he fell on his face. Against the Chargers, again to no avail, as he sort of stopped half way through it. He executed proper speed rushing technique on one play against the Browns, which led to Aldon Smith’s sack at the end of the first half.
Mack has been having such poor production against the tackles that the Raiders moved him inside against a guard, next to Aldon, against the Chargers. They must figure his bull rush is better suited inside if that’s all he can do. He still had satisfactory production, producing one holding call and a possible hurry. Just like the tackles, the guard dug in his heels on the second rush, because he knew what was coming.
This coaching staff is not helping Khalil either. They obviously have not worked well enough with him on technique, as it shows on Sundays. They also are not running enough line stunts to try and get him advantageous angles against opposing lineman. It’s obvious they see his struggles on film, but they have not been able to fix it. That’s one knock I have on this coaching staff so far this season.
As I have said before, Khalil needs to dedicate time to perfect a minimum of three pass rushing techniques. I suggest the Reggie White forearm club, the Dwight Freeney spin and the LT hand swipe speed rush. Add in your standard bull rush and this is a full complement of moves that will keep every tackle in the league guessing. If he is to be great, that has to be his focus for the remainder of the year and every offseason. To develop his pass rushing techniques into an All-Pro level.
Mack just isn't a natural pass rusher, we need him back at linebacker
I agree I rather have him back at linebacker taking over ray ray Armstrong spot, cause ray ray is trash
Yeah move him back to LB. Put Edwards at DE.
Hurries are subjective now?
Is it because it doesn't fit the agenda ?
Von Miller, Mario Williams, Tamba Hali also all got " 3 measly sacks".
$114 Million dollar Suh got 2 sacks tho
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