NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I'm ahead of the game..
They gonna do John Harbaugh like they do Mike Tomlin right?
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I'm not a Harbaugh fan.
His in game decisions and decisions about play-calling are questionable. It's the same thing every year with him. He had the one run with Flacco, but he gets outcoached a LOT.
I can see the argument for the Steelers parting ways with Tomlin, but he hasn't had a top tier QB in about a decade. Harbaugh has had a future HOF QB, great defenses, and a future HOF HB this year. He gets too many passes that other coaches don't get.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Now his brother is back in rhe league. They can not be the cheating ass harbaugh brothers in the offs. Like how those cheating ass harbaugh brothers.
cheated all these years versus the steelers in the offs.
Now they both have jobs.
The other is getting exposed.
Art Barr
Up 15 against the Bills with about ten minutes to go and end up losing.
Shocking............
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Shocking............
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murksiderock
Superstar
If Baltimore doesn't make the Super Bowl this year, they gotta fire him. Have to!Up 15 against the Bills with about ten minutes to go and end up losing.
Shocking............
Mike catches hell for making the playoffs but not making long runs with the likes of flabby flabby Ben, Kenny Pickett, flabby Russ.
Meanwhile in Baltimore, Harbaugh stays disappointing with Lamar, and all the heat is on Lamar.
Am I missing something?
Meanwhile in Baltimore, Harbaugh stays disappointing with Lamar, and all the heat is on Lamar.
Am I missing something?
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
They really needed to years ago. I’m seeing people re-share 11-15 year old Facebook posts calling him out for blowing huge leads late because of his habit of going prevent offense and prevent defense in late and close games. He’s been giving away huge leads and getting blanked in the second half of games his entire career. 15 years ago he was turning 21-7 halftime leads in the postseason into 31-24 losses. Back in his second season they had a playoff game where after a 24 point first quarter they scored 9 the rest of the way. In his 4th season they missed the top seed by 1 game because they lost to 4 different non playoff teams.
In 2013 they miss the playoffs by getting blown out in back to back games to end the year.
In 2014 they get blown out in week 16 to lose control of their own fate and need a bunch of tiebreakers on week 17 to make the playoffs. Then in the playoffs they blow a pair of 14 point leads in the second half to New England because they make 0 adjustments in the second half.
They lead the league in blown 4th quarter leads on the way to a 5-11 season in 2015.
In 2016 his reckless decision making on taking or declining penalties costs them back to back games against Oakland and Washington which makes week 16 vs Pittsburgh a de facto playoff game with the north on the line and they go prevent defense with the game and season on the line which costs them the game.
In 2017 they miss the playoffs because in week 17 at home vs a non playoff team on 4th and 10 they give up a 50 yard touchdown through the air to lose the game.
2019 they fall behind early in their first playoff game and abandon the run entirely on the way to a blowout loss.
2021 Lamar gets hurt and they end the year on a 6 game losing streak to miss the playoffs.
2023 with the top rushing attack in the league they call 40+ passes to 8 designed runs all game in the afc championship game against a Kansas City team whose defense was far stronger against the pass than it was against the run. They lose by 7 points in a game where the margins were 7-0, 7-7, 14-7, 17-7, and 17-10.
He never has them locked in. Lamar has basically single handed saved his career several times over at this point.
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Unlike Stinky, Harbaugh's teams have winning records/Division Titles/can get to the Playoffs. 
If we keepin it a buck...whats his claim to fame? He inherited that defense and rode them to success. Flacco had an out of body playoffs during the SB run. After Ray retired and Ed left they were completely irrelevant until Lamar came in and carried them to the playoffs outta nowhere. Where is the Harbaugh imprint?
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
He doesn’t really have a claim to fame. He was hired allegedly to restore discipline to a ravens team that just 2 seasons prior were 13-3 with the top defense in the league in points, yards, passing yards, turnovers, defensive touchdowns, and I think red zone percentage while finishing 2nd in sacks by 1 and rushing yards allowed too. All they needed for Billick to get them over the top was to stay healthy and to get him a quarterback who could play at the pro level which happened regardless of what Harbaugh did.
When he first arrived he tried bushing the pregame stuff Ray would do and both he and Ed Reed disliked him almost right away. He’s never been willing to embrace the identity or culture of the team prior to his arrival and I think it’s a big reason why they have always been so bad against contenders. His predecessor was an offensive minded guy but once he realized what kind of team he had, he accepted what they were and got on board with playing to what the teams core strengths were.
The red flags were on display from day one too. He was 0-4 against the colts, titans, and Steelers during the regular season his first year while they finished 1 game back of Pittsburgh & Indy and 2 games back of Tennessee. By his 2nd season the guy who was hired to restore discipline was coaching the most penalized team in football. By the end of the 2010 season he presided over a team that led the league in blown 4th quarter leads that season and was 3-10 against the Steelers, Colts, and Pats so he clearly was overmatched against great coaches. Like you mentioned once Ray retired and he chased Ed out he was a week 17 of fortunate tiebreakers in 2014 away from missing the playoffs 5 years in a row while after every bad loss he gives a word salad coach speak answer usually about it being a heavyweight fight where the other team just made a few more plays while never acknowledging anything he could’ve done differently.
The short version is that Billick shouldn’t have been fired to begin with given the circumstances but if they had to can him then the obvious move was to promote Rex Ryan to head coach since he was already a mainstay in Baltimore and helped build the team culture/identity anyway. He was the clear MVP of the coaching staff in 2008 and it was obvious to everyone that the team would lose a step or two once they lost him that winter.
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seymour cake
All Star
Pack heem up if he dont get to the superbowl fire his ass. Go get bill belechick or someone. shyt imagine 49ers coach with that offense, shyt would be spooky
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
Kyle Shanahan was the chief culprit of 28-3. If you look up all the list of blown leads Harbaugh is at the top of for the past 6-7 years, you’ll see him in 2nd place for a bunch of them.
Copy Ninja
Superstar
Ravens fans here in MD been calling for Harbaugh to get fired for a looooong time. There's a good segment of fans who wanted Rex to be the next HC and not John.
Also, Bisciotti will never fire John unless he starts moving like Tucker/Deshaun or some other major off field controversy. Bisciotti wants stability like the Steelers.
Also, Bisciotti will never fire John unless he starts moving like Tucker/Deshaun or some other major off field controversy. Bisciotti wants stability like the Steelers.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
Rex was so clearly the guy who was supposed to be next in line after Billick whenever he was done for every reason you could think of which I mostly detailed on top of the reason that you didn’t want to let him get out of town to coach some other team and take assistants and players with him, which he ended up doing. Meanwhile the players had to convince Harbaugh not to fire Rex when he cleared out most of Billick’s staff. I’ve been saying that he needs to go since late November or early December of 2010. Even in the immediate wake of the Super Bowl win I never heard another fan entertain the idea of him being a good coach. Most fans I know have been furious with him for ages because on top of all this, he’s lost so many good defensive coordinators to head coaching jobs only to replace them the next year with someone terrible at the job.
