They want NYC to get rid of Gifted & Talented programs/ Gone

[hatealot]

How the fukk are Asian kids and Hispanic kids outscoring black kids...in FUKKING ENGLISH?!

Many of those kids come from families where the parents barely speak any English!

Go to any Asian/Indian neighborhood and you will see a bunch of after schools catered to prepping them for tests such as sats and entrance exams. School doesnt stop after 3pm for them, they reinforce everything they learned in school daily.

After a while learning becomes a muscle and doesnt reflect actual intellect. You just get better at retaining information and aoplying it like a mental roledex

 

[B86]

As someone who's been in majority black schools all my life in NYC, an extremely large portion of nikkas don't take education seriously at all. Mindset plays just a big a role if not bigger than poverty does when it comes to education. The average nyc black hs kids ain't taking there shyt seriously, its as simple as that.

Yall gonna come in here with excuses though

I’m not from NY but I’ve lived in 4 different states as a kid/teen and it’s the same shyt everywhere...a lot of nikkas simply don’t want to sit in a class everyday and learn. We can blame the school system, the parents, or whoever else but the fact is it’s up to us to sit our asses down and learn.

I was in the Scholars Gifted Program from first grade to ninth grade and it was a shame how few of us there was in the program compared to everyone else

 

[UncleTomFord15]

I’m not from NY but I’ve lived in 4 different states as a kid/teen and it’s the same shyt everywhere...a lot of nikkas simply don’t want to sit in a class everyday and learn. We can blame the school system, the parents, or whoever else but the fact is it’s up to us to sit our asses down and learn.

I was in the Scholars Gifted Program for Program from first grade to ninth grade and it was a shame how few of us there was in the program compared to everyone else

The thing is, not only did I go thru preschool to college in NYC but I spent literally all my life in the gifted and talented program. Not joking at all when I say the programs aren't anything crazy and aren't extremely hard to get into, like some are making it seem. Though elementary to middle school was mostly black once I got to hs it was very mixed.


None of those Asians, whites, jews, etc I had hs with are naturally more intelligent than us. Most of them were dumb as shyt if I'm being honest. However they don't have the culture of "keeping it real" that nikkas have aswell. Studying and getting good grades isn't considered lame amongst them.A large portion of NYC young nikkas rather worry about who's from what set, who's getting money from scamming, joking around too much or thinking they're the next LeBron or some shyt.

In summary; I've actually been in NYC gifted and talented program it's nothing impossible for a black kid to do. Too many young black kids just don't take their shyt seriously.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Go to any Asian/Indian neighborhood and you will see a bunch of after schools catered to prepping them for tests such as sats and entrance exams. School doesnt stop after 3pm for them, they reinforce everything they learned in school daily.

After a while learning becomes a muscle and doesnt reflect actual intellect. You just get better at retaining information and aoplying it like a mental roledex

All of this especially the last paragraph.

 

[hashmander]

How the fukk are Asian kids and Hispanic kids outscoring black kids...in FUKKING ENGLISH?!

Many of those kids come from families where the parents barely speak any English!

honestly because as a child in your formative years hearing NO english at home is better than BAD english. no bad habits to break. also there are great benefits for children knowing multiple languages, it feeds their brains.

 

[daboywonder2002]

They need to reform the entire fukkin public school system in nyc. Being a product of such, I remember in jhs I had a history text book from the 1950s that smelled of urine. These standardize test are also easy as fukk so I feel like even if you studied for a little bit you should be able to pass.

IF the standardized tests were easy, why the low scores for minorities?

 

[chineebai]

IF the standardized tests were easy, why the low scores for minorities?

Economics for one, and the other being cultural as others have mentioned here. In my opinion these tests are easy because I remember passing everything with a high score even in the english test. I was the worst at english like I couldn't pass spelling tests without cheating but I still pass the standardized ones.

 

[Geode]

I believe we also have to change how we interact with our kids. Talk with them not at them and try to make everyday things into a learning experience. Kids, especially the younger ones, like to talk and want to show what they've learned or can learn. Hard to practice if no one is having those types of conversations at home or during weekend visits.

 

[karim]

Poor parenting is the cause. My parents had us reading books everyday. They bought computers for us, letting us play educational games that increased our literacy, math skills and typing. When finishing our homework, they’d score our answers and educate us where we were wrong. A lot of black children are born to failures who don’t value education.

All this education and you still turned out to be a trump supporting moron

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Go to any Asian/Indian neighborhood and you will see a bunch of after schools catered to prepping them for tests such as sats and entrance exams. School doesnt stop after 3pm for them, they reinforce everything they learned in school daily.

After a while learning becomes a muscle and doesnt reflect actual intellect. You just get better at retaining information and aoplying it like a mental roledex

I coach AAU basketball and we had a Saturday tournament at a private high school. The same day at that school, some SAT/college prep camp was happening.

The racial and ethnic breakdown for the two events at the same school was obvious: Mostly black teen boys and some girls headed to the basketball tournament; and mostly Asian and white teens attending the SAT/college camp.

I still coach youth basketball, and we stress academic achievement in our program above success on the courts.

But damn if that day didn't make me think twice about where we place our priorities for our children.

 

[ThaBronxBully]

This City, And More Importantly This Country Just Continues To FAIL Its InnerCity Youth. Put Nothing In And Expect Gold To Come Out.

 

[Dark Knyght]

It starts at home. I also went through the gifted and talented programs in NYC. I was taking and passing regents exams with flying colors in junior high and graduated high school and started college at 15 years old.

My father would bring out the dry erase board every sunday teaching my brother and I math and vocabulary. I've never had to study for a math exam a day in my life. I just knew it like the back of my hand through reinforced practice. My father would always tell me you cant study math, you have to practice the routines of solving equations until its habit forming. I cant articulate how to solve some equations now, but by me just starting an equation i'll remember how to do it out of sheer reflex. Im going through that helping my daughter with her homework now.

Studying in the black community is non existant. And the kids just dont give a fukk. The parents dont give a fukk either when their child is failing and there's no consequences when they fail. They still getting the best clothes or technology because the black community is fixated on giving their children the material things they didn't have. Instead of giving them the information they didn't have.

If I brought how less than a B, it was a problem between my parents and I, Especially my father. He has high expectations and belief in what I was capable of. He made sure I knew I could be good at anything if I put the time in. My father taught me how to teach myself. He let me know I didnt have to rely on the teacher to teach me anything, I had to ability to pick up a book and teach myself. Thats doesnt exist today.

My father let me know early that nobody is smarter than me, they just know something that you haven't learned yet. And if I put some effort in, I can know and be as proficient in anything anybody else knows. Just because you a doctor and lawyer, doesnt mean you smarter than me. I can take the same textbooks you were reading and be just as well versed in medicine or law if I choose to do so.

 

[Maude]

Thread looking kinda

Im kinda upset. I cant believe its people in here blaming poor parents and assuming black parents dont care about children education
Most of us are not given opportunities to improve our status not to mention households are systematically split up through the prison system.
Every school in america need to drop standardized testing. It stems from the SAT which was started by a eugenicist.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Our school system sucks. We spend the most by far and our black students are only 28 percent proficient.

We need new leadership.

I mean you're right but alot of this shyt starts at home.

Most parents send their kids to school and don't really pay attention to what the kid is doing as long as the teacher isn't calling home.

The discipline to study starts at home.

And sadly..well atleast what I grew up around black kids grow up in broken homes without much support..

 

[Elle Driver]

If there’s no supplemental education in the home then just going to school isn’t going to do much. Inner city public school systems are all over the place.