Things About 90's Hip Hop You Didn't Like?

[FruitOfTheVale]

And there are still a lot of bonafide west coast classics from the 90s I have not mentioned...

Digital Underground - Sex Packets is one of the most iconic and influential rap albums ever and easily fits in a conversation with It Takes A Nation of Millions or Breaking Atoms.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

nikka said UGK and 8 Ball & MJG are regional like nikkas outside of the northeast was really bumping Jeru the damaja and smif n wessun and cnn and shyt like that ... theyre all dope but you cant brush off southern acts for being regional then give classic status to equally regional east coast shyt

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

The worst thing to happen to mainstream hip-hop and it's quality/substance was 2Pac and Big dying. We know this but if you look at how everything plays out, without them dying it never gets to that point. Biggie was gonna be perfectly fine with Diddy going full on commercial but he at least was a lyrical master and I think nikkas would have continued to try to put forth that kind of effort but when Biggie dies and then Pun dies.. it ruined that aspect in the mainstream. Jay and Nas kept it alive for a while but Diddy went fukkin crazy over the top with the way rap was now portrayed in pop culture.

Pac had clones yeah in appearance but nobody followed his lead on substance. nikkas like KRS were already died out so Pac takes that hit and now nobody saying shyt important can get on the radio. Even Kendrick doesn't get play like that. Pac was so popular that the demand would have forced radio stations to play it.

 

[bogey_j]

1. WC & The MAAD Circle - Curb Servin
2. Mad CJ Mac - True Game
3. C-Bo - Tales From Da Crypt
4. Brotha Lynch Hung - Season of Da Siccness
5. DJ Quik - Rhythm-Al-Ism
6. Mac Dre - Young Black Brotha
7. West Coast Bad Boyz Vol. 2
8. Twinz - Conversations
9. Aceyalone - A Book of Human Language
10. Ras Kass - Soul On Ice
11. Xzibit - At The Speed of Life
12. Spice-1 - Amerikkka's Most Wanted
13. Paris - The Devil Made Me Do It
14. Too $hort - Short Dog's In The House
15. Ant Banks - The Big Badass
16. Totally Insane - Backstreet Life
17. Ray Luv - Forever Hustlin'
18. 3X Kraxy - Stackin Chips
19. Dre Dog - I Hate You With A Passion
20. Cell Block Compilation Vol. 1
21. King Tee - At Your Own Risk
22. Ice-T - Original Gangster
23. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - No Need For Alarm
24. 2Pac - Makaveli: The 7 Day Theory
25. Tha Alkaholiks - Coast 2 Coast
26. Tha Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II Tha Pharcyde
27. B.G. Knocc Out & Dresta - Real Brothas
28. Celly Cel - Killa Kali
29. The Click - Game Related
30. E-40 - Hall Of Game
31. The Coup - Steal This Album
32. Cypress Hill - Black Sunday
33. Seagram - Reality Check


I can go on... A number of these dudes got more than 1 classic in the 90s.

this guy has the audacity to put brotha lynch hung on this list but neglects Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom It May Concern

west coast cats stay sleeping on some of their best albums and instead prop up wack ass nikkas like brotha lynch hung

 

[mobbinfms]

this guy has the audacity to put brotha lynch hung on this list but neglects Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom It May Concern

west coast cats stay sleeping on some of their best albums and instead prop up wack ass nikkas like brotha lynch hung

Brotha Lynch Hung is a beast on the mic though.

 

[bogey_j]

A lot of West Coast albums are just as good or better than East Coast albums. But Hip Hop fanboys who actually know nothing about music, regional cultural significance can't formulate their own opinions about music that hasn't been reviewed by whiteboys from White Plains, New York who worked as music critics for big publications back in the 90's. Messy Marv & San Quinn's Explosive Mode is musically better than any album that came out of the East Coast in 98'. 2nd II None's debut album was musically as good as any classic album from 91'. Dru Down Can U Feel Me was as good as anything back in 96'. But these albums aren't constantly promoted by hipster whiteboys who moved to NYC from the Midwest in 2008 or their older brothers who wrote gushy reviews about 90's NYC albums. That Korean lady Miss

your taste

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

this guy has the audacity to put brotha lynch hung on this list but neglects Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom It May Concern

west coast cats stay sleeping on some of their best albums and instead prop up wack ass nikkas like brotha lynch hung

Lol I had Innercity griots on the 2nd part of my list. I don't fukk with BLH's work in the 2000s but season of da siccness is classic period.

 

[bogey_j]

Lol I had Innercity griots on the 2nd part of my list. I don't fukk with BLH's work in the 2000s but season of da siccness is classic period.

season of da siccness has just aged SO HORRIBLY. it sounds sooo dated in 2015. a truly classic album is timeless. season of da siccness is one of those fake classics that I hate. cats stayed tryna put me onto that trash back in the day

do you even know who freestyle fellowship is? and you call yourself a fan of west coast hip hop?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

do you even know who freestyle fellowship is? and you call yourself a fan of west coast hip hop?

Did you even read the list? Do you not see Aceyalone? Do you not see Innercity griots mentioned at the top of the post you just quoted? Lol.

 

[Suspicions]

Sex skits. Sex skits. Sex skits. Did I mention sex skits?

Game brought it back on the doc 2 too

 

[Suspicions]

About 1993-1995 where the gangster rap thing just went over the top. Like literally every artist that came out was a gangster rapper some rappers even changed their image to become gangster rappers. And some of content was just over the top with gimmicky voices. Some nikkas would purposely try to sound like Onyx and it was corny.

I heard onyx changed their style to become gangstas after it worked for other dudes. Any truth to that?

 

[Ben Ovabich]

The hate MC Hammer got for being successful..

 

[Chip Skylark]

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[re'up]

I came up in the late 90's in hip hop, started with Puffy and Mase, quickly was immersed in The Lox, Biggie, Jay, Memphis Bleek....I was 13 when 'Ha' came out, and I had all the Cash Money albums pretty soon after....There's little I don't love about the 90's, either for nostalgic purposes, like the albums that never came out was frustrating, but a timeless part of my childhood.....Ruff Ryders was infamous for this....but the love for the music, despite the many missteps I can never dismiss....whether it's Jay and Ja Rule 'Can I Get A', or Juvenile 'HA', TQ 'Westside', all the classic R&B, from Usher to Monica, to Reel Tight and IMx....I have love for it all... trying get my mom to by me The Source, reading it cover to cover at school, stuffing them in my backpack til they were ragged, cashing out gift cards for other things to buy 'Hard Knock Life Vol. 2', buying 'It Was Written' used at Wherehouse Music....I was really too young to NOT like anything, I was to in love with it all at the time....going into the 2000's I could pick up some things about rap I didn't like, but the late 90's are too close to my memories to have much of a critical eye....even the fashion, I'll show people pics of me in middle school, baggy Polo jeans, Tommy'd out with the Iverson 3'...'you look like a little gangster' lol maybe but you just weren't into hip hop like that....

 

[mobbinfms]

Yup. Albums like Ready to Die played front to back like West Coast albums. From the hardcore tracks to the singles which were essentially G-Funk records. Yes, "Big Poppa" and "Juicy" were essentially G-Funk records. Who outside of Cali was sampling Mtume in the early 90's? The whole player vibe Biggie commercialized was in debt to the Bay (i.e. Too $hort, Mac Mall, Pac). Dre Dog from SF used the same sample as "Juicy" a year before on "The Ave" which was a huge local hit in Cali. In 93-94', East Coast rappers started aggressively rapping about guns, weed and hustling literally over night. All of it had to do with the fact that white label exec's wised up and realized that hardcore Cali-style Gangsta Rap with a sometimes added party vibe was what was selling the most.

I disagree that Ready to Die played front to back like a west coast album. And Juicy and Big Poppa aren't G funk records. Pete Rock originally made the beat for Juicy, Puff took it and modified the drums slightly, I doubt he heard that Dre Dog record, but who knows.
And Tribe samples Between the Sheets in basically the same way back in 90-91.
Kane would have been a huge influence on Biggie and he was on that Player shyt. Not saying Pac and Short wouldn't have influenced him as well. Wasn't King Tee his favorite rapper?
You could say that The Message started "reality" rap, but your point is taken, I wouldn't say it was overnight though.