The misuse of jazz samples but the C tier east coast artists and wack funk flips from C level west coast artists
Having background dancers in music videos which was a trend started by Bad Boy. Even MC Eiht had them in one of his videos in '98![]()






Most of the "real hip-hop purist" you see dikkriding 90's east coast/NY on the net...are not even from the east coast/NY...these are international posters and hipster cacs mainly...i know alot real NY nikkas that fukk with South shyt tuff...old heads too...my partna from Brooklyn and in his early 40's and be lovin that 3-6/Memphis shyt when i got that shyt on wang in the whip...don't let these canadians & caucasians on the coli fool you
I disagree that Ready to Die played front to back like a west coast album. And Juicy and Big Poppa aren't G funk records. Pete Rock originally made the beat for Juicy, Puff took it and modified the drums slightly, I doubt he heard that Dre Dog record, but who knows.
And Tribe samples Between the Sheets in basically the same way back in 90-91.
Kane would have been a huge influence on Biggie and he was on that Player shyt. Not saying Pac and Short wouldn't have influenced him as well. Wasn't King Tee his favorite rapper?
You could say that The Message started "reality" rap, but your point is taken, I wouldn't say it was overnight though.

I don't like how I missed because I was born in '96.
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Exactly. Someone posted in this thread earlier about how nobody down south was listening to Jeru or CNN, they only listened to southern rappers. Those aren't real hip hop fans to me. If you true blue about this shyt, you should be striving to listen to the best shyt from every region. Not saying any one artist in particular is a requirement, but if you from the South and only listened to Bad Boy in the mid 90s, cause that's what was on the radio, you wasn't really a hip hop fan.The saddest thing about this thread is that you find out so many people who claim they hip-hop and this and that, are really just fans of where they're from.
:pdahell:Rappers weren't rapping about rims as much back then, not much now either. That reflects trying to appeal to CACS, who rims aren't important to.
Exactly. Someone posted in this thread earlier about how nobody down south was listening to Jeru or CNN, they only listened to southern rappers. Those aren't real hip hop fans to me. If you true blue about this shyt, you should be striving to listen to the best shyt from every region. Not saying any one artist in particular is a requirement, but if you from the South and only listened to Bad Boy in the mid 90s, cause that's what was on the radio, you wasn't really a hip hop fan.

He loves Illmatic. I got Whitney if he denies it.
As I keep thinkin' about it...
The saddest thing about this thread is that you find out so many people who claim they hip-hop and this and that, are really just fans of where they're from. To me, one of the best things about hip-hop then is that you could hear all kinds of different shyt- you could hear NY dudes talk about NY, hear a Cali dude talk about Cali, hear nikkas from ATL talk about ATL shyt... and do it all in their own way. You could even get different angles- Snoop was from Cali and the Pharcyde was from Cali, two totally different sounds tho'. On the East you had ur Wu-Tang & Mobb, but then you also had BIG & Jay who were a lil' more 'mainstream' but still made good shyt. Down South, you could get Scarface or Master P or Outkast. It wasn't just easy to take it all and put it in a box. And that's what I feel like nikkas do now, even with old music. Ride for everything Cali while cryin' about NY and album ratings, and acting like "nobody" was listening to anything from there... it's like, do you like music or do you just like your neighborhood? I'm just one of them dudes who could fukk with Dru Down and Black Moon at the same time... the point was the be different anyway. Most of the best artists (not the C & D level nikkas) were the best BECAUSE they weren't following the next nikka. Now shyt's gotten so integrated, you can't even tell the NY dudes if they ain't wearin' Yankee hats...