Things About 90's Hip Hop You Didn't Like?

[Free White & 21]

Obligatory weed songs I don't smoke so i was always like
In the late 90's, that epic drop in quality from the east coast mixed with the epic rise of trash from the south was

 

[FreshAIG]

living in the south i can tell you nobody really gave a shyt about mainstream hip-hop like that ... you would be looked at as a weirdo for having a jeru CD ... like yeah biggie, pac, snoop, dre etc got play but that other shyt? nah

This is true. 90s was MUCH more regional. When I would go down south to visit my family, they played Biggie and shyt, but most of the music they listened to were southern artists. Outkast, Cash Money, Scarface, No Limit, etc...My cousins didn't even know who or what a Tribe Called Quest was.

 

[mobbinfms]

187 He Wrote
In A Major Way
Doggystyle
Safe + Sound
Illegal Business?
93 Til Infinity
Death Certificate
All Balls Don't Bounce
Boxcar Sessions
The Chronic
Ruthless By Law
Black Mafia Life
Me Against The World

And literally a 100 more

 

[blackslash]

at least there were still 'regional' sounds.

I find it absolutely mindblowing that for the last 5 years or so, ALL hip hop, no matter where you go in the world, has a Southern trap sound. I never imagined it would get like this. That is homogeneity at an unprecedented level. Can it get any more clonish than where we are now?

Examples

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

You disagree that there are a 100+ classic west coast hip hop albums from the 1990s?

 

[Zero]

It gave birth to a lot of these bitter NY nikkas mad that they lost their sound and they have no one to blame for it but themselves

Oh and by the way:

 

[Zero]

Was Jive not a major label ?????


Krs was signed to Jive when UGK was



what am I reading?????

East coast bullshyt breh

 

[10:31]

It gave birth to a lot of these bitter NY nikkas mad that they lost their sound and they have no one to blame for it but themselves

Oh and by the way:

Lost their sound is correct


The irony is one their Grestest producers (Premo) is from the south


Not to mention the south showed the north nothing but love in the 90s. You even had southern artists paying homage trying to adopt more of a northern sound just to get their music played in the northern market

 

[shawntitan]

Maybe this is just me.

But it seems like everything was cold during that era (Cold as in temperature)
nyggaz wearing hoodies, tim boots, toboggans in their videos

look back at early Jay-z's Dead Presidents, Nas It Aint Hard To Tell and Early Wu-Tang videos
to see what I'm talking about.

I loved that, LOL

 

[kingofnyc]

FOH, boy

Soulja Slim
C Murder
Mac
Fiend
Mystikal

Are some of the best hip hop artists period. This is the stupid ass shjt I'm talking about.

Man get your dumb ass all the way the fukk out of this thread and sit the fukk down

Master P isn't no damn artist nikka. He was always what he was.. A business man. You know he wasn't writing his 16s. You sound dumb as hell. I dare you chalk up 75 million records sold to P was biting other artists

nikka P wasn't even the best artist on the label he was just the face


Get the fukk out of here monkey nikka

 

[H.I.M.]

Most of the "real hip-hop purist" you see dikkriding 90's east coast/NY on the net...are not even from the east coast/NY...these are international posters and hipster cacs mainly...i know alot real NY nikkas that fukk with South shyt tuff...old heads too...my partna from Brooklyn and in his early 40's and be lovin that 3-6/Memphis shyt when i got that shyt on wang in the whip...don't let these canadians & caucasians on the coli fool you

 

[LunaticVillage415]

other coasts always complaining about regional bias blah blah blah. But let's keep it 1 fukking hundred. Were other coasts dropping albums as brilliant as Illmatic, Ready To Die, Cuban Linx, Infamous, Liquid Swords, Dah Shinin, Main Ingredient back to back?

Ironically, nearly all of the albums you listed were blatantly influenced by late 80's/early 90's West Coast Hip Hop. In the early 90's, West Coast Rap topped the charts. Early 90's East Coast Rap was conscious Native-Tongues Jazz Rap (i.e. ATCQ, Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth, Gang Starr, Main Source) and Afrocentric political Rap (X-Clan, Public Enemy, Brand Nubian, Intelligent Hoodlum). The whole East Coast resurgence of the mid 90's was influenced by West Coast Gangsta Rap. The only real notable hardcore rappers who talked about gangsta shyt on the East Coast before about 93' were Schooly D in the early 80's, KRS-One on one album Criminal Minded and Kool G. Rap. And yes, all of the albums you listed delve into subject matter almost strictly revolving around the underworld of ghetto gangsterism and crime except for the Main Ingredient. The East Coast invented Hip Hop as an alternative activity to help stop the violence that was rampant in the streets of the Bronx in the 70's and early 80's. West Coast Rap was always more of an uncensored ghetto documentary. East Coast rappers didn't even curse in the 80's and early 90's.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Bum stiggedty bum stiggedty
BARS

thats one of the exceptions

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

1. WC & The MAAD Circle - Curb Servin
2. Mad CJ Mac - True Game
3. C-Bo - Tales From Da Crypt
4. Brotha Lynch Hung - Season of Da Siccness
5. DJ Quik - Rhythm-Al-Ism
6. Mac Dre - Young Black Brotha
7. West Coast Bad Boyz Vol. 2
8. Twinz - Conversations
9. Aceyalone - A Book of Human Language
10. Ras Kass - Soul On Ice
11. Xzibit - At The Speed of Life
12. Spice-1 - Amerikkka's Most Wanted
13. Paris - The Devil Made Me Do It
14. Too $hort - Short Dog's In The House
15. Ant Banks - The Big Badass
16. Totally Insane - Backstreet Life
17. Ray Luv - Forever Hustlin'
18. 3X Kraxy - Stackin Chips
19. Dre Dog - I Hate You With A Passion
20. Cell Block Compilation Vol. 1
21. King Tee - At Your Own Risk
22. Ice-T - Original Gangster
23. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - No Need For Alarm
24. 2Pac - Makaveli: The 7 Day Theory
25. Tha Alkaholiks - Coast 2 Coast
26. Tha Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II Tha Pharcyde
27. B.G. Knocc Out & Dresta - Real Brothas
28. Celly Cel - Killa Kali
29. The Click - Game Related
30. E-40 - Hall Of Game
31. The Coup - Steal This Album
32. Cypress Hill - Black Sunday
33. Seagram - Reality Check


I can go on... A number of these dudes got more than 1 classic in the 90s.

 

[mobbinfms]

@mobbinfms I respectfully disagree

1. Soul Food is a certified classic
2. Southernplaya literally put the South on the map. I'm sure you're familiar with the Source Awards and Andre's speech yada yada

Now I saw you argued Liquid Swords isn't on the level as a Paid in Full, Illmatic etc in terms of consensus or whatever. If you're going by that, then I can accept your assessment of Southern classics (except maybe Kast's best albums). BUT, I think Liquid Swords is consensus and it's my personal GOAT, so don't be disrespectful :P

I disagree about Soul Food, but it's whatever as to it being a classic. I see the argument. It's nowhere near GOAT level though.
Geto Boys put the South on the map. Shout out to Luke too.

I'll take Liquid Swords over any album from the South, easily, but this thread isn't about my opinion.