Things About 90's Hip Hop You Didn't Like?

[Wacky D]

Disagree. I dont get this. I mean he gets his props, but are you supposed to give nikkas love after that for making money? Im saying, Master P
& No Limit were biters & they werent actual artists who had plans on creating dope music so why would they get anymore love or respect for them
buying houses for themselves & all? Cats hypnotized by other peoples money.

they made money because people loved the music. nobody bought they chit because they were paid. lol.

and they were an indie label. its not like they were shoved down the public's throats.

this is what I dislike the most about the '90s. not just the regionally biased people, but also comments like these. the sheer disregard which leads to uninformed posts such as these are just as bad as comments made by some east coast homer.

this the type of chit that makes a nicca wanna hit somebody. that's why homie snapped on you the way he did.

FOH, boy

Soulja Slim
C Murder
Mac
Fiend
Mystikal

Are some of the best hip hop artists period. This is the stupid ass shjt I'm talking about.

Man get your dumb ass all the way the fukk out of this thread and sit the fukk down

Master P isn't no damn artist nikka. He was always what he was.. A business man. You know he wasn't writing his 16s. You sound dumb as hell. I dare you chalk up 75 million records sold to P was biting other artists

nikka P wasn't even the best artist on the label he was just the face


Get the fukk out of here monkey nikka

cosign everyting in this post except master p not writing.

not saying he was a lyrical guy but he wrote most of his stuff back then.

nikka said UGK and 8 Ball & MJG are regional like nikkas outside of the northeast was really bumping Jeru the damaja and smif n wessun and cnn and shyt like that ... theyre all dope but you cant brush off southern acts for being regional then give classic status to equally regional east coast shyt

ehh. east coast bias was a trip but a lot of yall be holding grudges over stuff that yall make up in your heads.

nobody ever claimed that jeru, smiff or CNN were more than regional, aside from some of noreaga's solo run.

on the flipside, its the other coasts that are the main ones trying to boost their regional favorites to undeserved levels.

ugk and 8ball & mjg are the same status as those east coast artists you mentioned. the difference is, yall steady trying to make ugk into run dmc.

2. Southernplaya literally put the South on the map. I'm sure you're familiar with the Source Awards and Andre's speech yada yada

no the hell it didn't. stuff like this is why i always end up speaking against outkast on this site.

ever heard of luke? 2 live crew? geto boys? rap-a-lot?

they came before outkast and made a bigger impact.

Geto Boys put them on the map regionally, but OutKast were big enough to make waves across the country and make people wake up to the South, and Atlanta in particular.

I also love Liquid Swords over any South album, over any album ever, anywhere...hah

geto boys were more popular nationally than outkast ever was in the hip-hop world.

most of outkast's reach is with the type of people that aren't really into rap.

that and they were the 1st southern group to cater towards the backpacks and purists. but in terms of pioneering the south to the general rap audience, they didn't make a dent. theyre to the south what the roots are to philly. and that's not a knock on either of those groups at all.

 

[mobbinfms]

Production has improved significantly from the 90's.

:pdahell:

 

[Wacky D]

I hate that everyone says Jay bit Biggies flow from back then but to me Jadakiss sounds more like Biggie than anybody else.

nah. its the other way around.

biggie changed his style up BECAUSE of the LOX.
mase did too.

Your quote applies equally to NY fans who find something salty or flat out dumb to say about music from other regions which there was plenty of in this thread.

On some other shyt, I honestly don't see how people equate trend-hopping mixtape rappers with being representative of their region. If you want to get a movement going in the Bay Area music scene (doing shows, in-stores, etc.) you have to make music that appeals to the Bay Area... The same is true in LA, Chicago and pretty much anywhere else I've been. Regionalism is still alive if you're really trying to make a career out of rap, mixtape rappers who want to get discovered online without putting in the work in the streets will always sound like knockoffs of whatever is popular online / on the radio at the moment.

THIS.

if youre not following whats really going on in the streets, then youre not following hip-hop, and youre just letting the industry dictate whats hot.

and yea, i don't even listen to rappers who only buzz on the net. 9 1/2 times out of 10, if you have to go thru the net for a buzz, its because your city aint f*ckin wit you.

 

[JustCKing]

Looking back, the only thing I disliked about the 90's is albums with 20+ songs and having to rewind and fast forward because you had the cassette. That's 9-10 songs on both sides. It was even more frustrating when there were skits.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I disagree that Ready to Die played front to back like a west coast album. And Juicy and Big Poppa aren't G funk records. Pete Rock originally made the beat for Juicy, Puff took it and modified the drums slightly, I doubt he heard that Dre Dog record, but who knows.
And Tribe samples Between the Sheets in basically the same way back in 90-91.
Kane would have been a huge influence on Biggie and he was on that Player shyt. Not saying Pac and Short wouldn't have influenced him as well. Wasn't King Tee his favorite rapper?
You could say that The Message started "reality" rap, but your point is taken, I wouldn't say it was overnight though.

RTD and East Coast Hardcore did take their cue from West Coast Gangsta Rap. Diddy even acknowledged that he was trying to make an "East Coast Doggystyle/The Chronic" with RTD

43:23 (49:31 on RTD)

 

[DarkmanX]

they made money because people loved the music. nobody bought they chit because they were paid. lol.

and they were an indie label. its not like they were shoved down the public's throats.

this is what I dislike the most about the '90s. not just the regionally biased people, but also comments like these. the sheer disregard which leads to uninformed posts such as these are just as bad as comments made by some east coast homer.

this the type of chit that makes a nicca wanna hit somebody. that's why homie snapped on you the way he did.





cosign everyting in this post except master p not writing.

not saying he was a lyrical guy but he wrote most of his stuff back then.





ehh. east coast bias was a trip but a lot of yall be holding grudges over stuff that yall make up in your heads.

nobody ever claimed that jeru, smiff or CNN were more than regional, aside from some of noreaga's solo run.

on the flipside, its the other coasts that are the main ones trying to boost their regional favorites to undeserved levels.

ugk and 8ball & mjg are the same status as those east coast artists you mentioned. the difference is, yall steady trying to make ugk into run dmc.




no the hell it didn't. stuff like this is why i always end up speaking against outkast on this site.

ever heard of luke? 2 live crew? geto boys? rap-a-lot?

they came before outkast and made a bigger impact.





geto boys were more popular nationally than outkast ever was in the hip-hop world.

most of outkast's reach is with the type of people that aren't really into rap.

that and they were the 1st southern group to cater towards the backpacks and purists. but in terms of pioneering the south to the general rap audience, they didn't make a dent. theyre to the south what the roots are to philly. and that's not a knock on either of those groups at all.

No, dude asked why they not getting more love. That's why i responded the way i did. Had nothing to do with their sales or shoved down people's throat - which they actually were on TV & radio. They had a deal
with Priority, which is really how they got Snoop.

What? Homie snapped for no reason. That's what he does on this forum if you check his resume. And you need to calm your little sensitive ass down as if im here barking at you or No Limit. Calm down. And im not from the East coast so the irony if people not informed talking about things, right?

 

[H.I.M.]

Each album he listed is just as quality and significant, if not more so, than OB4CL. You'd have to be from the south, and specifically Memphis for 8ball & MJG and 3-6, to fully grasp their impact. As a Memphis nikka I could say that Playa Fly's Fly shyt and Moving On are in the same league. Its a regional thing

Speaking of which...just stumbled across this



cotdamn yall scene was live as hell

Only seen shyt like this in DC gogo's...not at no rap show

But them school administrators was lunchin having them perform that song at a inner city high school

shyt coulda got way outta hand

 

[puppetmaster]

Thread was cool for about a page then it turned into some regional beef shyt.

Makes me happy as fukk I'm from the mid west. I never had a dog in that fight and listened to all that shyt growing up.

Fred.

This 100%

It's why to this day I like to know as little about a new/new to me artist before I listen to them as possible because I honestly don't care where they're from. There's good hip-hop and wack hip-hop IMO. Neither are exclusive to a region

To answer the OP tho I grew up on (stole from my older brothers cars) Gangsta rap (anything NWA, DJ Quik, Geto Boys, Spice 1) but by the late 90's even I was bored with shoot em up bang bang because it got so see thru.

 

[mobbinfms]

they made money because people loved the music.

It's never that simple. Especially around 97-98.

 

[mobbinfms]

RTD and East Coast Hardcore did take their cue from West Coast Gangsta Rap. Diddy even acknowledged that he was trying to make an "East Coast Doggystyle/The Chronic" with RTD

43:23 (49:31 on RTD)

I don't dispute this. But I do dispute that it played front to back like a west coast album. And I am against those thugs

 

[10:31]

Speaking of which...just stumbled across this



cotdamn yall scene was live as hell

Only seen shyt like this in DC gogo's...not at no rap show

But them school administrators was lunchin having them perform that song at a inner city high school

shyt coulda got way outta hand

 

[SirBiatch]

Production has improved significantly from the 90's.

90's is the most overrated era. It was the first full decade we really had hip hop. There will always be nostalgia for it.

There were plenty of terrible rappers in the 90's, but they weren't who was popular. Now a lot of the bad rappers are popular while Run the Jewels, who would've been "legends" had they dropped in the 90's, sell like 12K first week. I think that makes people think this era is worse when really it's just what's popular got worse.

There's only about 10 albums from the 90's I spin anymore.

Run the Jewels? How white are you?

shyt on 90s rap to overrate some cac group.

 

[SirBiatch]

@Iron Chin Wilder I'm still waiting to hear about DC's grand contribution to hip hop, since you insist on slandering Toronto due to your insecurity.

Let's hear what DC has contributed to hip hop and feel free to deflect to "Cacnada" so I can son you.

 

[mobbinfms]

@Iron Chin Wilder I'm still waiting to hear about DC's grand contribution to hip hop, since you insist on slandering Toronto due to your insecurity.

Let's hear what DC has contributed to hip hop and feel free to deflect to "Cacnada" so I can son you.

Question Mark Asylum and Nonchalant
"Real" Hip Hop

 

[SirBiatch]

Question Mark Asylum and Nonchalant

Who?