This about to get ugly.Ice cube vs nas... In thier prime

[bigrodthe1]

what in the fukk are you talking about?

P.E's debut dropped at least a full year before NWA's debut.



You wish

Nothing alike except for the fact that Cube's debut album is patterned after Chuck D on some Bomb Squad shyt, among other things.

You really need to cut down on your use of the word 'nothing'.

Fool we already established that PE's debut was NOTHING like the NWA sound, subject matter etc...the timing of A Nation and SOC is what makes them social peers. And We Not talking about AMERIKKKA's Most stop trying to move the goal posts

 

[Still Benefited]

and you DEFINITLEY gotta hear Chuck Ds influence on Cube....with that said how the he'll you gon fault Cube for not wanting to be super lyrical based on his influences....Cube surpassed his influences on a technical and musical level.

 

[SirBiatch]

Fool we already established that PE's debut was NOTHING like the NWA sound, subject matter

no we haven't established that. That's just some shyt you made up to make yourself feel better, and you're determined to roll with it even with receipts slapping you in the face.

I've already explained with receipts why that's not the case. Capitalizing 'nothing' doesn't help your argument in any way.

You're rambling, skipping and jumping all over the place. All because you said some dumb shyt you're too scared to take back. Talking about Cube's approach to hip hop had no precedence

If I really want to get accurate with this thread, the thread is actually about Cube vs Nas. Not NWA vs Nas. There is a difference. You already know this and that's why you're playing super loose with the facts.

Keep dancing breh

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

This is the big problem with this thread.
Cube had one prime. 88-91. The Predator through Bow Down were dope too, but there was a clear decline.
Nas had at least two primes. Illmatic through IWW. Then he had the awful Firm album and I Am and Nastradamus were uneven to weak, at best. His second peak begins with Stillmatic and extends through the release of the Lost Tapes.
You could even argue a third prime with LIG, but I know I'll lose people with that.

So it's tough to compare these two.

How can you call the Stillmatic era a prime?

And on top of that you couldn't extend Cube's to 1993?

Nah...

 

[bigrodthe1]

've already explained with receipts

You did??? Where?

ou're rambling, skipping and jumping all over the place. All because you said some dumb shyt you're too scared to take back. Talking about Cube's output had no precedence

If I really want to get accurate with this thread, the thread is actually about Cube vs Nas. Not NWA vs Nas. There is a difference. You already know this and that's why you're playing super loose with the facts.

Keep dancing breh

Clown you said Public Enemy set the precedence to what Cube was doing when he FIRST came out and that shyt is TOTALLY not true
Cube was speaking from a viewpoint of a young black male growing up in the mist of gangs, racial profiling, and corruption in LA while PE was speaking on overall oppression by the system. Are you even black
PE would NEVER made songs like
I ain't the one
Gangsta, Gangsta
Dope Man etc...you sound silly. Were you even alive during this time

 

[H.S.]

Cube is arguably the reason you say nikka

 

[bigrodthe1]

How can you call the Stillmatic era a prime?

And on top of that you couldn't extend Cube's to 1993?

Nah...

Cats also really like to act like Cube's run from 2006-2009 was wack.
Laugh Now, Cry Later/Raw Footage>>Streets Disciple/HHID and those are close to the same time frames. PLEASE debate this

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Cats also really like to act like Cube's run from 2006-2009 was wack.
Laugh Now, Cry Later/Raw Footage>>Streets Disciple/HHID and those are close to the same time frames. PLEASE debate this

Hell we could also keep Cube running till 1996 with Bow Down

So 1988-1996 Prime Cube run
2006-2008 Contemporary Cube run

I agree with you 100%

 

[mobbinfms]

How can you call the Stillmatic era a prime?

And on top of that you couldn't extend Cube's to 1993?

Simple breh. I lived through the Stillmatic era and it was a triumphant return to form for Nas. He killed Jay in the battle and was razor sharp on the mic throughout the album.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Simple breh. I lived through the Stillmatic era and it was a triumphant return to form for Nas. He killed Jay in the battle and was razor sharp on the mic throughout the album.

Well yeah he made a comeback but th album isn't worthy of you attaching it to his prime run tbh.

Any of Cubes albums between 1988-1996 are better except Bow Down which is roughly equal.

 

[SirBiatch]

You did??? Where?

Nothing is an over-statement. PE came out the gate on some conscious, hard shyt. I agree that Nation of Millions took things to a whole other level, but there were seeds of that on Bumrush. Tracks like Public Enemy No 1, Timebomb and Rightstarter.

Denial is a mutha. Not gonna address the rest of your post because you stay rambling and goal-shifting. I'm sticking to the topic and exposing the holes in your juelz, you're catching feelings and asking if I'm Black

Sure sign of that creeping in

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

what in the fukk are you talking about?

P.E's debut dropped at least a full year before NWA's debut.

Nope. 7-8 months. In a time when you really didn't hear records people were working on until well after the fact. Boyz In The Hood was written before Public Enemy put out their debut as well. It just wasn't used until later.

Public Enemy was conscious on purpose, they were smart, they wanted to build a movement. Ice Cube was an angry gangsta rapper and accidentally conscious, he was ignorant, he wanted to set the world on fire. They were not the same. They had similarities because they both made Hip Hop records and had a similar production style but Cube himself and Chuck D himself, were two different artists. Prior to Ice Cube there was not a blend of gangsta rap and conscious records being made that were blunt, angry, yet simple enough to resonate across the board.

Public enemy made powerful records but then never made ANGRY records. That is not just a subtle difference. One is a better life if we work together and the other is nihilistic.

 

[Art Barr]

Y'all have GOT to be trolling ain't no way in hell

Somebody drop a dope Ice Cube quotable

Cube has the common nikka records that are quotables in themselves and arguably the greatest gateways in rap all time.

I ain't the one
Gangsta gangsta
A bytch is a bytch
A bird in the hand
You can't fade me
Nappy dugout


Funny thing is these two used to be my favorite rappers from 89-91, and 92-94.

91-92 was b real.


Art Barr

 

[bigrodthe1]

Denial is a mutha. Not gonna address the rest of your post because you stay rambling and goal-shifting. I'm sticking to the topic and exposing the holes in your juelz, you're catching feelings and asking if I'm Black

Sure sign of that creeping in

Nope. 7-8 months. In a time when you really didn't hear records people were working on until well after the fact. Boyz In The Hood was written before Public Enemy put out their debut as well. It just wasn't used until later.

Public Enemy was conscious on purpose, they were smart, they wanted to build a movement. Ice Cube was an angry gangsta rapper and accidentally conscious, he was ignorant, he wanted to set the world on fire. They were not the same. They had similarities because they both made Hip Hop records and had a similar production team but Cube himself and Chuck D himself, were two different artists. Prior to Ice Cube there was not a blend of gangsta rap and conscious records being made that were blunt, angry, yet simple enough to resonate across the board.

Public Record made powerful records but then never made ANGRY records. That is not just a subtle difference. One is a better life if we work together and the other is nihilistic.

Thanks for TOTALLY showing this clown EXACTLY what I was saying. I can't WAIT for his reply for this. Cube was ALREADY doing his thing as PE was doing theirs. He is probably in his 20's and doesn't realize that it was like it is now. Nobody was hearing what everybody else was doing Cube was doing his style and Chuck/PE were doing theirs.

 

[Still Benefited]

Cats also really like to act like Cube's run from 2006-2009 was wack.
Laugh Now, Cry Later/Raw Footage>>Streets Disciple/HHID and those are close to the same time frames. PLEASE debate this

Cube being better at his part time gig,than Nas at his full time job