THIS Could Be The 2020 US Census...........

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Do you think that would cause Black Caribbeans to be discriminated against if they are lumped with Hispanic Caribbeans and Indo Caribbeans?
Seeing as US is race based country.

Ideally what would this look like in action in your opinion?
No, since discrimination is mostly based off race
Black Caribbeans are already discriminated against based off race so not much I anything would change if the census was more accurate
The example in the OP is fine I would also have no issues with one that included a Caribbean ancestry option
 

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No, since discrimination is mostly based off race
Black Caribbeans are already discriminated against based off race so not much I anything would change if the census was more accurate
The example in the OP is fine I would also have no issues with one that included a Caribbean ancestry option
Well it’s you’re community do you know more about you interworking with Hispanics and and Non Black Caribbeans than I would.
Well you guys will be getting the option to gonibto detail about your ancestry come 2020.
They specifically ask about Erhnicity and country of origin.
Good Luck!
 
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My Puerto Rican friend who describes himself as a “white” Puerto Rican will have to check Puerto Rican, which is under the white box :mjlol:. Sorry Puerto Rican’s, Cubans, Mexicans. They have no need for you at the moment. Can’t be white, yet.

No changes on my end. Still checking the African American box.
 

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Well it’s you’re community do you know more about you interworking with Hispanics and and Non Black Caribbeans than I would.
Well you guys will be getting the option to gonibto detail about your ancestry come 2020.
They specifically ask about Erhnicity and country of origin.
Good Luck!
a change to the census will affect non English speaking Caribbean people much more than English speaking.

My Puerto Rican friend who describes himself as a “white” Puerto Rican will have to check Puerto Rican, which is under the white box :mjlol:. Sorry Puerto Rican’s, Cubans, Mexicans. They have no need for you at the moment. Can’t be white, yet.

No changes on my end. Still checking the African American box.

the history of Latinos and the census is funny since they can never decide whether they want latinos to be white or not.

but most Ricans are in fact white
 

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a change to the census will affect non English speaking Caribbean people much more than English speaking.



the history of Latinos and the census is funny since they can never decide whether they want latinos to be white or not.

but most Ricans are in fact white
Whah do you think will affect them more?
Do you think it’d be a negative affect?
 

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2020 Census is going to be the first census where some self-proclaimed identity goofballs are going to put down that they are black, when they are really white.
Census takers are going to have to look at the birth certificate and tell them heck no.
:ufdup:
 

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Cubans? Notice even Spaniards are not considered white. They are lumped with Latinos lol.
 

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Whah do you think will affect them more?
Do you think it’d be a negative affect?
i don't know if it will be a negative effect. potentially the government could use the census to keep track of certain population and where they live like they did with Japanese Americans and internment. or use the census to have more targeted deportations.
the positive part is it helps business and nonprofits determine where certain populations are and address their needs (language, healthcare, etc.)
as English speaking Caribbean Americans don't need services in a language other than English it likely won't affect them as much aside from giving more accurate number assuming people report accurately
Cubans? Notice even Spaniards are not considered white. They are lumped with Latinos lol.
no they're not.
 

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i don't know if it will be a negative effect. potentially the government could use the census to keep track of certain population and where they live like they did with Japanese Americans and internment. or use the census to have more targeted deportations.
the positive part is it helps business and nonprofits determine where certain populations are and address their needs (language, healthcare, etc.)
as English speaking Caribbean Americans don't need services in a language other than English it likely won't affect them as much aside from giving more accurate number assuming people report accurately

no they're not.
As far as the deportations I can’t see that effecting Black Caribbeans as much as it’d effect Central Americans.
I did a bit of research on immigration and Black Caribbean Americans have the most favorable circumstances of all immigrants.
Y’all have the quickest naturalization process and high numbers of green cards.
 

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As far as the deportations I can’t see that effecting Black Caribbeans as much as it’d effect Central Americans.
I did a bit of research on immigration and Black Caribbean Americans have the most favorable circumstances of all immigrants.
Y’all have the quickest naturalization process and high numbers of green cards.
i don't think thats true what sources are you citing

black immigrants (majority of whom are Caribbean) are over-represented in deportation proceedings and removals. While Haiti had TPS, the rest of the Caribbean doesn't. mostly white Cubans have government protection and Central Americans have TPS.
For Some Black Immigrants, Life in Limbo
naturalization is the same for everyone, no group has it quicker
while black Caribbean people do relatively well in this country we do not have the protections some other groups get nor do we have the economic success that other immigrant groups and their kids have.
as far as green cards, caribbean people are always looking to sponsor our family and with the exception of the Cubans (they have completley difference immigration experience than others), Haitians, and Dominicans, most of us speak English so its easier for us to understand and go through the process
 

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i don't think thats true what sources are you citing

black immigrants (majority of whom are Caribbean) are over-represented in deportation proceedings and removals. While Haiti had TPS, the rest of the Caribbean doesn't. mostly white Cubans have government protection and Central Americans have TPS.
For Some Black Immigrants, Life in Limbo
naturalization is the same for everyone, no group has it quicker
while black Caribbean people do relatively well in this country we do not have the protections some other groups get nor do we have the economic success that other immigrant groups and their kids have.
as far as green cards, caribbean people are always looking to sponsor our family and with the exception of the Cubans (they have completley difference immigration experience than others), Haitians, and Dominicans, most of us speak English so its easier for us to understand and go through the process
“Moreover, Caribbeans are far more likely to become naturalized U.S. citizens or obtain green cards than other immigrant communities. The Migration Policy Institute reported that between 2000 and 2009, nearly1.1 million foreign-born Caribbeans became lawful permanent residents. About 55.4 percent of foreign-born Caribbeans are naturalized U.S. citizens, versus a figure of 43.7 percent of the overall foreign-born population.”
Caribbean-Americans: An Invisible Minority Seeking Identity And Affirmation
Which immigrant group do you feel has an easier time then you all?
The only Black immigrants that have s hard time to my knowledge is Haitians, and to your point I think it’s largely due to the language barriers. The U.S. is getting much more strict about English for obvious reasons.
 

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“Moreover, Caribbeans are far more likely to become naturalized U.S. citizens or obtain green cards than other immigrant communities. The Migration Policy Institute reported that between 2000 and 2009, nearly1.1 million foreign-born Caribbeans became lawful permanent residents. About 55.4 percent of foreign-born Caribbeans are naturalized U.S. citizens, versus a figure of 43.7 percent of the overall foreign-born population.”
Caribbean-Americans: An Invisible Minority Seeking Identity And Affirmation
Which immigrant group do you feel has an easier time then you all?
The only Black immigrants that have s hard time to my knowledge is Haitians, and to your point I think it’s largely due to the language barriers. The U.S. is getting much more strict about English for obvious reasons.
Cubans, every Asian group except the refugees, white Latinos, Europeans etc
 
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