This is how it ends: Bernie proposes $15T tax increase, including increase on middle class

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Why make the middle class pay more?!:mindblown:
Their savings will be a lot more. Your tax is now your premium, and all working people share into it, which will make it far lower than collective premiums. No more having to try to itemize it or worry about an insurance mandate tax. It's not that hard to understand, if people don't cede to selfish viseral reactions. We're removing the insurance companies from the game.

European nations are doing this with no problem with only a 3rd of our population.
 

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The thing with free health care.
Yes it is nice in reality, but in reality a lot of people my age (in their 20s) are not going to the doctor more than once a year, if that. I don't want to pay for something I'm not going to use. I'd rather just purchase my own health care plan.
Some people say they shouldn't have to pay for public schools if they don't have any kids attending. Both of you are selfish a$$holes. :yeshrug:
 

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Why make the middle class pay more?!:mindblown:

This post is exemplary of the lack of critical thinking in American society

Apparently people think taxes go up in smoke and disappear like ghosts

Let me break it down for you.

These taxes will go towards slashing costs for you across the board from healthcare, educational opportunities, proper maintenance infrastructure that will reduce residual damage to your vehicle etc etc etc
 

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This post is exemplary of the lack of critical thinking in American society

Apparently people think taxes go up in smoke and disappear like ghosts

Let me break it down for you.

These taxes will go towards slashing costs for you across the board from healthcare, educational opportunities, proper maintenance infrastructure that will reduce residual damage to your vehicle etc etc etc
And all of those create more jobs, as they need construction teams to maintain/fix roads, likely more professors for bigger schools, people to feed both, and actuarial staff for accounting/cost control. It's a win/win for the economy in long run.

Ignore Keynesian for Trickle Down brehs!
 

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And all of those create more jobs, as they need construction teams to maintain/fix roads, likely more professors for bigger schools, people to feed both, and actuarial staff for accounting/cost control. It's a win/win for the economy in long run.

A great economy where people are working jobs that put roof over their head, pays the bills, allows them to enjoy themselves once in a while, makes the entire society much better.

Reduces poverty, crime, racial animosity, improves civility etc etc etc. The society you live in becomes a happy place


People really don't get the big vision
 

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A great economy where people are working jobs that put roof over their head, pays the bills, allows them to enjoy themselves once in a while, makes the entire society much better.

Reduces poverty, crime, racial animosity, improves civility etc etc etc. The society you live in becomes a happy place


People really don't get the big vision
People have that, by and large.

You know this, right?
 

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A great economy where people are working jobs that put roof over their head, pays the bills, allows them to enjoy themselves once in a while, makes the entire society much better.

Reduces poverty, crime, racial animosity, improves civility etc etc etc. The society you live in becomes a happy place


People really don't get the big vision
They've been conditioned into the low expectation world for so long, that Obama progress :mjlol:, optics and fleeting racial pride, looks like we made it or can. They just don't know that threats have been introduced that can tear the bandaids off the entire Obama administration and make Bush's reign seem amazing in hindsight.

I see anything less than a Bernie presidency a setup for major upheaval. Trump may actually have the calmer presidency. If the economy doesn't show signs of improvement, White people are going to really start popping off, enabling racial violence/crime, and our people will follow too. The scarcity of opportunity must end, with our boredom. Yeah, we have distractions, but the simple fact that so many are on FB, or forums like thus, says we're bored ourselves and want that promise of something bigger.

I see the phenomenon. Upwards mobility, while the chance and faith is still there, or like our market and China will, we crash socially.
 

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They've been conditioned into the low expectation world for so long, that Obama progress :mjlol:, optics and fleeting racial pride, looks like we made it or can. They just don't know that threats have been introduced that can tear the bandaids off the entire Obama administration and make Bush's reign seem amazing in hindsight.

I see anything less than a Bernie presidency a setup for major upheaval. Trump may actually have the calmer presidency. If the economy doesn't show signs of improvement, White people are going to really start popping off, enabling racial violence/crime, and our people will follow too. The scarcity of opportunity must end, with our boredom. Yeah, we have distractions, but the simple fact that so many are on FB, or forums like thus, says we're bored ourselves and want that promise of something bigger.

I see the phenomenon. Upwards mobility, while the chance and faith is still there, or like our market and China will, we crash socially.

:blessed: The fall of oligarchic capitalism and capitalism as the main construct period is upon us.

I want Trump to win because I want white conservative to witness how terrible extreme neo-liberalism is to society :wow:

Once they wake up from their racial delusions, they will start thinking properly.

Black folks will learn to educate themselves better on politics as well and not hitch their horse to a corrupt neo-liberal plutocrat
 

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:blessed: The fall of oligarchic capitalism and capitalism as the main construct period is upon us.

I want Trump to win because I want white conservative to witness how terrible extreme neo-liberalism is to society :wow:

Once they wake up from their racial delusions, they will start thinking properly.

Black folks will learn to educate themselves better on politics as well and not hitch their horse to a corrupt neo-liberal plutocrat
I would wish for it too, to wake us up, as quite a few more militants observers do; but I really fear the backlash that MAY happen during such an upheaval period. Fox News may come back as strong as ever from Trump's lover's quarrel. They are almost literally the new Goebbels. Then Trump's policies would likely fail, and they'd blame all the welfare Blacks, as we see from their rally fukkery.

We could get some calm, before an inevitable bank crash, that sends the world into a depression, because Trump has businessmen and crony capitalists instead of economists running policy. Yellen is likely getting the boot, and although I hate her for stalling in rate hikes, she has be stable.

There's just too much to fukk up, and Whites have ZERO chill. They might also conclude "it's THEIR time" after the Blacks had Obama. To cater to them, education would be cut to fukk, and evolution banned. Most of the people in Trump's admin would likely lack empathy to anyone but White folk, and maybe Asians.

Nah...possibly populist temporary piece for the crying little baby, but likely a shytshow of hubris. Trump would be too old to care, as he has gotten the best brass ring on Earth. He's failed many things before, and he just had his name put on America :camby:to that shyt.

I just want more of our people to wake up.
 

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They've been conditioned into the low expectation world for so long, that Obama progress :mjlol:, optics and fleeting racial pride, looks like we made it or can. They just don't know that threats have been introduced that can tear the bandaids off the entire Obama administration and make Bush's reign seem amazing in hindsight.

I see anything less than a Bernie presidency a setup for major upheaval. Trump may actually have the calmer presidency. If the economy doesn't show signs of improvement, White people are going to really start popping off, enabling racial violence/crime, and our people will follow too. The scarcity of opportunity must end, with our boredom. Yeah, we have distractions, but the simple fact that so many are on FB, or forums like thus, says we're bored ourselves and want that promise of something bigger.

I see the phenomenon. Upwards mobility, while the chance and faith is still there, or like our market and China will, we crash socially.


:mjlol:

Is that upheaval before or after you far lefties take away all of the guns?
 

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:mjlol:

Is that upheaval before or after you far lefties take away all of the guns?
I don't have a problem with guns. I'm sure Bernie doesn't either. I don't think either Hillary or Trump knows how to solve the problem with violence though, and that's less trickle down and less blaming the poor for the budget deficits. If people don't have opportunity, they will be stuck doing shyt they don't want to do. When they get stuck, they envy people they perceive doing better, or not having to do so much to be happy, not understanding that they may be faking their happiness too. People who aren't happy strike out. A gun makes that lashing out more permanent. And things that are permanent usually creates other permanent things.

A true leftie is about personal freedom, as long as there's no victims. People react, in the wrong way, to people getting murdered. We should be a society that looks at itself more, and blames less. It's either a better economy with more expanding opportunity, or less/no guns. You can't do it any other way.
 

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:blessed: The fall of oligarchic capitalism and capitalism as the main construct period is upon us.

I want Trump to win because I want white conservative to witness how terrible extreme neo-liberalism is to society :wow:

Once they wake up from their racial delusions, they will start thinking properly.

Black folks will learn to educate themselves better on politics as well and not hitch their horse to a corrupt neo-liberal plutocrat

:dahell:

that's some serious hope and optimism there...
 

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You people are so damn silly. You think you're playing some intelligent, nuanced "long game", but what you all fail to realize is that people are living pay check to paycheck religiously in this country, even the middle class. All people know is that if they see an increase in their weekly or monthly earnings from the feds it hurts them. IT'S THEIR MONEY, NOT THE FUKKING GOVERNMENTS. People can take care of themselves. Give them that right, and simply take your filthy hands out of their pockets. It's simple!
 
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