This is how it ends: Bernie proposes $15T tax increase, including increase on middle class

[MrSinnister]

You people are so damn silly. You think you're playing some intelligent, nuanced "long game", but what you all fail to realize is that people are living pay check to paycheck religiously in this country, even the middle class. All people know is that if they see an increase in their weekly or monthly earnings from the feds it hurts them. IT'S THEIR MONEY, NOT THE FUKKING GOVERNMENTS. People can take care of themselves. Give them that right, and simply take your filthy hands out of their pockets. It's simple!

You're hilarious. I'm very sure if they're middle class, they're paying insurance premiums. Very little would go up for broke as nikkas who talk like they're in a higher class, but soaking up that Medicaid, if they even have insurance.

Funny how the people who scream for HELP and CHANGE the most are so resistant to new ideas. There may be a reason people are living check to check.

 

[BaggerofTea]

Is that upheaval before or after you far lefties take away all of the guns?

You do know that gun control is scam.

Nra donates to a lot of democrats, the democrats then talk nonsense about guns, that then drives morons to but more guns, driving up the gun sale.

 

[Reality]

Their savings will be a lot more. Your tax is now your premium, and all working people share into it, which will make it far lower than collective premiums. No more having to try to itemize it or worry about an insurance mandate tax. It's not that hard to understand, if people don't cede to selfish viseral reactions. We're removing the insurance companies from the game.

European nations are doing this with no problem with only a 3rd of our population.

Here's my thing...I need it very clearly explained how I'm coming out ahead paying $20-$25k more a year. So I'm paying the bill for some broke cigarette smoking CACs and helping pay the bill for others CACs should've already footed the bill for via reparations, etc?

Bernie I wanted to ride for you breh but this has even me like.

 

[Outlaw]

That tax plan is ridiculous and college shouldn't be free when I have a shyt load of student loans. How about free people of student loan debt first?

 

[BaggerofTea]

Here's my thing...I need it very clearly explained how I'm coming out ahead paying $20-$25k more a year. So I'm paying the bill for some broke cigarette smoking CACs and helping pay the bill for others CACs should've already footed the bill for via reparations, etc?

Bernie I wanted to ride for you breh but this has even me like.

The lying and trolling isn't even good any more

 

[Reality]

The lying and trolling isn't even good any more

You're telling on yourself if you think that's a stretch.

 

[GunRanger]

You must be lower class

What? Why would i want to increase my taxes? Im already paying over 27% per check and i dont pay for healthcare as itt is 100% employer paid

 

[BaggerofTea]

You're telling on yourself if you think that's a stretch.

You are talking about tacking on an extra 20gs, that's flat out false

 

[Reality]

You are talking about tacking on an extra 20gs, that's flat out false

Are you suggesting I'm misinterpreting table 6 in the report, or are you saying that the report itself is misleading?

 

[5n0man]

What? Why would i want to increase my taxes? Im already paying over 27% per check and i dont pay for healthcare as itt is 100% employer paid

I still have to pay for health insurance through my job, I'm paying about 200$ a month.

If I didn't have to pay that but my taxes increased buy 150 a month, then I don't really see how I'm losing anything. Plus your employer wouldn't have to provide health insurance so that would save them money too. Money that could be used to pay their workers more. (But we know they wouldn't)

 

[MrSinnister]

All the crybabies need to see:

"We do not account for the effects of the new government programs on income,” said Burman. “We focused on the tax side, and we’re not really experts on the spending component.”"


It is unfair and misleading to exclude those benefits, said Warren Gunnels, Sanders's policy director."



Read more: Report: Sanders proposes $15T in tax increases, hitting most taxpayers

It's a hitpiece, plain and simple. I know every other tax plan I've ever heard from the GOP or corporate Democrats had an "expected growth" component. This looks like the old paygo tax reforms, and we have a lot of ground to make up. Vote for him or not, it's your faults were in the ditch.

 

[FAH1223]

I still have to pay for health insurance through my job, I'm paying about 200$ a month.

If I didn't have to pay that but my taxes increased buy 150 a month, then I don't really see how I'm losing anything. Plus your employer wouldn't have to provide health insurance so that would save them money too. Money that could be used to pay their workers more. (But we know they wouldn't)

Lower deductible and no copay

 

[Entrapta310]

TOLD YOU SO

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I thought 15T was some new tax form

Bernie has always said however that most tax brackets would see a slight increase but they'd make out with what they'd save on health care costs. I haven't done the analysis myself and there are various sources saying varying things so

 

[MrSinnister]

I thought 15T was some new tax form

Bernie has always said however that most tax brackets would see a slight increase but they'd make out with what they'd save on health care costs. I haven't done the analysis myself and there are various sources saying varying things so

That's why he needs to come out strong about this shyt, like yesterday, and have a whole website with the information from a long game perspective. Cenk had it on lock, but he has to insure it's calculated on his side to as honest as he can make it, and tell his supporters to share it. Main thing is he has to have the attack the misinformation. Hell Chelsea Clinton is on the board for IAC ffs!
Chelsea Clinton joins IAC board

They control The Daily Beast, that I see people sharing all over the place and started the Bernie Bros shyt. He has to get his people motivated and aware.