This Is Pop (Netflix) - Boyz II Men Effect

[dora_da_destroyer]

Gotta get into it but im currently watching The Evolution Of Hip Hop

That doc is what made me give this one a try. I generally enjoyed it except for the cornball brotha of a host. He and the dude who did High on the Hog didn’t resonate with me given the subject matter they were exploring

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I gotta see this

 

[Ku$h Parker]

This was a good watch. I never even thought of it how all the white boy groups was rip offs of them

Yea same,especially NE and NKOTB back in the 80s

That doc is what made me give this one a try. I generally enjoyed it except for the cornball brotha of a host. He and the dude who did High on the Hog didn’t resonate with me given the subject matter they were exploring

I JUST finished High On The Hog too,That Mac and Cheese and Oyster Eps were Hittin tho

 

[OfTheCross]

BIIM my favorite RnB group ever. I've never heard anyone disrespect them or not give them their due

 

[Crumple]

Boyz 2 Men are pretty much the king's of the short list of rnb I respect.

Any rnb glorifying cheating can go fukk themselves

I am for love and healthy relationships and building families as much as we can.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

but, the more popular hiphop got the less people wanted to hear R&B. When the late 80s and early 90s kids started reaching the ages where they determine what’s popular it became pretty clear that fans prefer rap

Yes and no. Hiphop's actual commercial peak was like 97-2000; R&B outsold all genres of music as late as 2004

 

[CrimsonTider]

Yes and no. Hiphop's actual commercial peak was like 97-2000; R&B outsold all genres of music as late as 2004

I’m talking about the momentum.

R&B got minimized for a reason and that reason is because fans preferred rap

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

BIIM my favorite RnB group ever. I've never heard anyone disrespect them or not give them their due

You must have blinders on when you enter any convo here about 90’s male r&b groups then. Plenty of people dismiss them as boring, corny, too clean, too pop, etc.

 

[Blessings]

Greeat watch

 

[threattonature]

I’m talking about the momentum.

R&B got minimized for a reason and that reason is because fans preferred rap

I look at it as a chicken and the egg type of deal. I wonder if R&B lost momentum because the new generation of singers didn't come up in churches and listening to like old Motown and instead came up listening to hip-hop or more dancy R&B. Hell BIIM themselves said they were tired of being the ballad group and wanted to make more dance music and more uptempo records.

So did that in turn lead to more groups and producers wanting to make more hip-hop sounding R&B kinds of records which lead to more classic R&B losing momentum? We can't forget Bad Boy wasn't just running hip-hop they also played a big factor in the R&B sound as well and more and more songs started having the hip-hop sound to it and a lot of the upcoming R&B producers were more hip-hop in sound.

I'm all the way rambling but it is interesting to think about. I don't think the market was dead I just think as we all know radio is usually catered to the younger crowd and as a new generation came along that grew up on hip-hop, more of the music started catering to the more hip-hop based sound. I think there was still an audience for the more traditional R&B but you are right in it being phased out.

 

[Wacky D]

I’ve met some of them personally, and they not some choir boys their image made it seem they are. Other than Shawn, they all from the projects.

And Shawn is a still from north Philly. My cousin used to babysit him. *plug*

 

[darealvelle]

I think the doc moreso blamed the mid90s boy band craze.
Motown cloned BoyzIIMen but with white boys and made 98 Degrees.

In 98 degree defense they were formed as an r&b group and I think they were discovered by Boys 2 Men at a concert.

 

[Trot LaRoc]

This episode was great....me n my wife reminisced a lot. It's crazy how their reign was short like leprechaun, I forgot how big they were....record breaking hits multiple times

Typical how white mediocrity is always triumphing over black excellence...story of American music and America in general

The watered down white copy always sells more and gets the full push

Little Richard - Pat Boone

Jackson 5. - The Osmonds

New Edition - New Kids on the Block

Rinse, wash, repeat....

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This episode was great....me n my wife reminisced a lot. It's crazy how their reign was short like leprechaun, I forgot how big they were....record breaking hits multiple times

Typical how white mediocrity is always triumphing over black excellence...story of American music and America in general

The watered down white copy always sells more and gets the full push

Little Richard - Pat Boone

Jackson 5. - The Osmonds

New Edition - New Kids on the Block

Rinse, wash, repeat....

Short? They were a top group from 91-98, that’s longer than jodeci was active.

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Short? They were a top group from 91-98, that’s longer than jodeci was active.

Usually when you are that big, you have at least 10 years of your peak and then decline starts

7 isnt bad, wasnt tryna shade....im.just saying it shoulda been longer