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It's not BS.

How many black people who are rap fans do you think there are in America?

For rappers to generate the dollars that they do, white people with disposable income HAVE to be the main drivers of the revenue.
Show me all these ultra rich rappers that are around from the beginning of rap to now? There has always been a few, and those are the ones who making millions but, a true fan knows most rappers who were doing well in black communities, for the most part, were making five or six digits, and living well.

Again, I have been listening to rap since the early 80's, and damn near most black people I know in America listened to it, while only a few whites listened to it the same way. The only people I met who were true fans were blacks, some latins, and a few whites. Repeat, just because they like a few rappers doesn't mean they are rap music fans, they just like what artist is popular at the time.
 
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Show me all these ultra rich rappers that are around from the beginning of rap to now? There has always been a few, and those are the ones who making millions but, a true fan knows most rappers for the most part were making five or six digits, and living well.

Again, I have been listening to rap since the early 80's, and damn near most black people I know in America listened to it, while only a few whites listened to it the same way. The only people I met who were true fans were blacks, some latins, and a few whites. Repeat, just because they like a few rappers doesn't mean they are rap music fans, they just like what artist is popular at the time.
I'm not sure what point you're making.

The point I'm making is that the main drivers of the dollars in Hip Hop come from white people.
Whether you think they are "real fans" is another question.
 

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Why are hip hop labels so white? You'd think they'd hire black employees :patrice:

Hell no, even the employees are rich in the music business. They want black folk to be broke and shiftless for more inspiration ,as sick as that sounds.
 

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but thats the thing tho. we know those that blow up into the mainstream and are doing numbers are due to the white audience. otherwise they stay underground and doing small clubs in local venues. Lil Boosie is probably an exception but for the most part, those doing numbers, even huge indie acts like Macklemore, are due to the that audience.
Whose concerts? That's my point.

There are way more artists who do rap music then the few at the top. Just because they go to the popular artists concert doesn't mean they are hip hop music fans.
 

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I'm not sure what point you're making.

The point I'm making is that the main drivers of the dollars in Hip Hop come from white people.
Whether you think they are "real fans" is another question.
The point is I doubt they are. They support popular artist but, you need to support more artist then that to help the business run, and most whites have no idea who "underground" rap artist are, they never did. Only a few were into it, and they were like Pete Rosenberg, they were true fans.

A good example is porn. Most people who do porn are not millionaires, but the industry does billions, and that is because so many people do it. But most of those people are not huge stars, they are on a small scale. It's the same with rap music, and always has been. The reason why it made so much money was because so many people put out albums, from small to large, and people bought the music. My point is the small scale artists made up the most of those sales, and most of those sales were form blacks or some latins, and only a few whites.
 

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what hip hop labels? Epic isn't a hip hop label, I don't think I can't even name a hip hop label now.

Even if you're right, I'm pretty sure there's a rap department at Epic. You would think they would have blacks handling that, not a boardroom full of whites. It's no excuse. Howard, Spelman, Morehouse, FAMU spit out 10,000 kids every year but, it's all whites next to LA Reid. Why are they there?
 

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:what:

Nah, man. I couldn't.

You gotta dance around in front of them begging for a deal like that?

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you mean like this?

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Even if you're right, I'm pretty sure there's a rap department at Epic. You would think they would have blacks handling that, not a boardroom full of whites. It's no excuse. Howard, Spelman, Morehouse spit out 10,000 kids every year but, it's all whites next to LA Reid. Why are they there?

Some of us, even with college education, think too damn small. We are trained to be complacent employees and not owners or businessmen of any sort.
 

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but thats the thing tho. we know those that blow up into the mainstream and are doing numbers are due to the white audience. otherwise they stay underground and doing small clubs in local venues. Lil Boosie is probably an exception but for the most part, those doing numbers, even huge indie acts like Macklemore, are due to the that audience.
But only a few do those numbers. Back in the 90's going gold was what most rappers aspired to because they knew they could make good money from shows, and still have some fame to use to make money from other areas. Going gold meant most of the people who bought your stuff was blacks. If it went platinum, and you didn't sell out to appease mainstream, you know you attracted real music lovers, but again that was rare.

Back to the original point, that means most people who are rap fans aren't whites. I doubt Young thug is getting all this attention because whites was his fans. I doubt Cash Money blowing up in the 90's was because whites were their biggest fans. I could go on, and on. When the media says rap is a _billion dollar industry, that includes all those rappers who only sold 10,000-100,000 albums, which are a lot of people, and who are supporting most of those artists, blacks, some latins, and a few whites.
 
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