I'm not doubting that Goku and Vegeta can destroy planets. But Marvel characters have such ridiculous resistant feats that they can easily take a supernova to the face and have been shown to hit as hard as DBZ characters.
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I'm not doubting that Goku and Vegeta can destroy planets. But Marvel characters have such ridiculous resistant feats that they can easily take a supernova to the face and have been shown to hit as hard as DBZ characters.
basically the only comic nikka that can fukk w/ these two at this point is Batman
Coli DBZ fans y'all are ridiculous. Most of you guys have never read a comic have you
Seriously why is this still being discussed???? Bloodlusted Silver Surfer alone could solo the entire DBZ universe. He opens a black hole in their face the end.
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lol... No just no... He wouldnt get passed Earth based characters yet alone beating 90% of the universe. Actually read a comic. DBZ actually sounds stupid as fukk with it being inconsistent especially in durability, relying on ABC logic and Akira Toriyama knowing jack about science.
There so many characters in the Marvel U heck that one image that can solo the DBZ universe. Sue Storm if bloodlusted can kill any low level Z-Fighter since they depend on oxygen. She alone can create force fields in their throats(SSj4 Goku can choke as shown in that episode where he was choking on a dragonball), she can turn off the part of the brain that makes the see. Or she can put a force field in their brains and keep expanding it.
I do read comics breh (dc mostly though)
Are you really gonna bring up inconsistencies in dbz like I can't go fetch a panel showing Thanos with the cuffs slapped on his wrist , going to the local jail?
Just stop it breh. You guys keep bringing up what these marvel characters can potentially do with their powers (Thanos with the gauntlet, sue bloodlusted, silver surfer opening blackholes, etc.) Then turn around like, "goku can't even blow up a planet"
I'm tired of you nikkas coming in here like " well Hyperion can smash planets together, Phoenix can erase the universe, *generic superhero* can erase oxygen from existence."
Tha fukk kinda fight are we talking about?
Does the silver surfer open blackholes to solve all his problems? I'm not arguing that there is no marvel characters that can beat these two but you guys sound rediculous with all this theoretical destroy the universe senarios.
I'm just saying, theoretically these dbz characters can be powerful too
Has she done this in the comics
Too bad that's not canon.
POTENTIALLY CAN DO!??? How when they HAVE done so and its APART of their abilities. We haven't seen Goku blow up planets, but I'm going to be fair and not doubt it. But any so, blowing up planets is highschool sh*t in comics that any high meta human can do. Even Hulk at his most angriest can bust a planet. Call me when DBZ characters can bust a galaxy. I mean actually do it and not rely on statements and hyperboles.
Because that's what they do... But Hyperion never smashed planets together, he was trying to keep them apart. And only the Phoenix can effect universe and not some average host. The reason Phoenix can do that is because it represents all of life in the Marvel universe.
I'm tired of you nikkas coming in here like " well Hyperion can smash planets together, Phoenix can erase the universe, *generic superhero* can erase oxygen from existence."
Tha fukk kinda fight are we talking about?
Because there are a lot of people in the pic that do that...
Silver Surfer doesn't regularly open blackholes, he's a passive and avoids as best as he can. But bloodlusted he's dangerous and will be using all of his abilities.
DBZ characters(excluding Bills) is at best herald level, a lot in the picture like Galactus is WAY beyond that. The reason my Marvel has so many powerful characters is that its universe is big as shyt(bigger than DC probably). Meanwhile the DBZ universe is very small, heck their galaxies are small ass sh*t that kid buu was easily able to go around busting planets. This is why I am beginning to doubt that Bills is not a galaxy buster look how small the DBZ U is...
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Has she done this in the comics
Yes and to Wolverine who has a healing factor.
The thing about comic characters is that they have much more versatility(even the weaker ones) than DBZ characters. In comics its not about powerscaling or who has the the higher power level. In comics skill actually matters and having the right type ability.
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You missed the whole point of my post breh. I KNOW what these characters powers are capable of, that's NOT what I'm arguing.
They can do all that but that's NOT their strategy every single time they fight someone.
Perfect example of what I'm talking about. We KNOW what silver surfer is capable of, but that's NOT how he solves all his problems, why do you keep acting like he'd open a black hole to deal with goku? Who happens to be a GOOD GUY not a villian? If these marvel heros aren't opening blackholes and destroying the universe EVERYTIME they have a confrontation then I don't want to hear that argument on why they stand no chance, you keep talking about these destroy the universe senarios, I'm talking more in line of a tournament style fight, a more logical senario where these people wouldn't be trying to erase everything from existence.
Galactus is someone that wouldn't lose to goku and vegeta, but my argument stands, if freeza, in his weakest form, before goku was even born, could destroy planets with almost no power, how much damage could goku do if he wanted? He gave freeza at his strongest a good fight before turning super saiyan, made him look like child's play after turning super saiyan, and has reached 4 more levels of ssj after that, each level MANY MANY times stronger than the last. The hulk would NOT be stronger than goku breh, dbz power levels are known to be inconsistent but going by what we know from the show, these characters power levels are alot higher than whats shown. But I'm not talking about what these characters can potentially be capable of.
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So how come she hasn't killed doctor doom?Yes and to Wolverine who has a healing factor.
The thing about comic characters is that they have much more versatility(even the weaker ones) than DBZ characters. In comics its not about powerscaling or who has the the higher power level. In comics skill actually matters and having the right type ability.
Crazy how you bring up powerscaling in dbz when your whole argument is based off the powerscaling of marvel characters and what they can do with their powers. In dbz these dudes all train EXTRA hard to reach the level they are at, and they are all highly skilled martial artist.
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Wait the host? NO THEY CANT. Why do you think god Doom easily killed Phoenix Cyclops.
Keyword, "bloodlusted". Which is what I meant not normal in character Silver Surfer.
I never said Hulk would beat either of them. I agree Goku would easily demolish Hulk. My point is busting planets is nothing new in comics. Hulk is barely herald level and he did it. Beta Ray Bill and his fight with Stardust was busting planets and it was just a side effect of their fight.
And Frieza still ain't beating 90% of the Marvel. He would barely get passed 616-Earth. Give Tony Stark, T'Challa, Dr Strange and Reed Richards especially a year or even a month of prep and Frieza is toast. I mean they have plans for people much worse than Frieza...
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There's something called "plot".
And do you really think that will take Doom down especially in his armor and high level magic? The reason I say that she would be able to do that to a "low level" DBZ character because they have shown that they 1. need oxygen and 2. can actually choke. SSj4 Goku was shown to choke on a dragonball. This is what I mean with the inconsistencies of DBZ.
When did I bring up powerscaling with Marvel characters? When? I actually said comics do not rely on such things.
You brought up the hulk as a comparison to goku like goku realistically isn't wayyyy past destroying planets powerwise.
Goku and vegeta are said to have traveled to another galaxy when they got old to have one final fight, the sonic waves and explosions could be heard and felt from earth.
Freeza, a dude that use to destroy planets for fun, got mad at goku and telepathically blew krillian up, and can shoot lasers powerful enough to penetrate anything Tony Starks/tachalla could create.
Again you need to take a step back and realized just how powerful these dbz characters are.
Now your talking about plots when before you were talking about destroying worlds and opening blackholes
Wtf is a plot to someone who can erase the universe and everything in it???
now you understand what I mean when I say goku COULD destroy the universe based off his strength.
Even low level dbz characters have been shown to be fast enough to kill sue storm LONG BEFORE they would suffocate.
Your bringing up what these marvel characters can do with their powers like that's how it would go in a one on one fight with goku, basically bringing up their power scale as a reason why they couldn't be beat. Dragonball z does NOT just rely heavily on powerscaling since ALL these characters are more than strong enough to destroy worlds but dont, even the human dbz characters like tien could blow up earth, they don't because of PLOT.
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