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Again, you're drifting into the meta. "Feats" in comics and cartoons are the only thing with "weight" obviously Goku for example; taking on and killing someone who can kill a planet is impressive by itself. It's also a barometer, it lets us know that they're gonna have to scale up their next villain, moreover those feats Goku has performed stay true (those and not the ones with plotholes you can drive a truck through). Who he's beaten is a clear indicator of his strength...
You can literally drive trucks through damn near all comic book characters, your mentioning people like Dr doom beating dudes that can wite out the universe, that's a fukking plothole in itself
Then there's science...
Lol same people said Kirby beats buu, stop it
Goku could be anywhere at anytime he needed to be....except, it isn't enough.
how would being able to escape almost any situation, while being fast enough to end shyt before people like sue storm or emma frost has any effect, not be enough?
 

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Vulcan? Yes the other guys no.
I never claimed they were stronger than anyone in the Marvel universe

You're telling me the strongest telepath in the Marvel universe.. wouldn't be able to control Goku's child-like mind and make him see anything she wanted? Bruh, See this is where you come off as a troll. It would be easier to say you aren't doing your research, but you're reaching really deep into a pool of "da fuq are you talking about". I'm gonna go with you know shyt about the characters I'm mentioning.
 

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You can literally drive trucks through damn near all comic book characters, your mentioning people like Dr doom beating dudes that can wite out the universe, that's a fukking plothole in itself

Lol same people said Kirby beats buu, stop it


So you don't like seeing your favorite cartoon characters "beat"...okay...either way they used the characters feats and using raw evidence came to that conclusion. You can ignore the science and use the tired defense of "bro its fictional", and deal with the feats and power levels of the toons mentioned, either way you're still gonna be sour about it, I'm sure.


how would being able to escape almost any situation, while being fast enough to end shyt before people like sue storm or emma frost has any effect, not be enough?


You clearly haven't researched enough about either, to ask that question at this time.
 

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DBZ would get bodied by the Hulk or Thor alone, never mind the cosmic/reality warping characters.

Comic heroes are never depicted as powerful as they actually are in animated adaptations (Hulk for example never destroys more than a city block) which is where most people get their knowledge of comic heroes from, so that throws people off when they see the hyperfast fight sequences of DBZ and the feats (planet destroying and whatnot) on display in glorious full animation, not to mention on screen deaths of incredibly powerful, proven characters via massive energy beams, speed blitzing and shyt.
 

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So why the fukk do you keep talking about what these guys can do while OUT OF character when I'm talking about these guys fighting IN character?
If theres anyone who should be getting annoyed its me. Who cares what you're talking about I'm talking about BLOODLUSTED, meaning they will be using their TRUE abilities.


Goku out if character could do that level of damage, a "bloodlusted" ssj god goku would be unstoppable by most of the Marvel universe, only a handful could stop him. But I'm talking about IN CHARACTER fights.
lol I DARE you to show me how ssj god Goku would be unstoppable by most in the Marvel U. Please show me how. lol! Like I said he would barely make it passed 616-Earth. Again do you read comics? A bloodlusted Silver Surfer alone would take out a bloodlusted ssj god Goku. No... My man Sentry and bloodlusted would destroy a ssj god Goku. Especially if he's stable minded. Molecule Manipulation? Which Goku has no defense against. You're not unprehending that the Marvel U has so many options and diverse abilities to take out any DBZ character. Quick and fast.

tien has been shown to have enough power to hold back cell in his second form, cell is someone 100 times stronger than a weakest form freeza that destroyed planets for fun. I'm sure tien could gather the strength to bust planets if needed, hell ,piccolo was strong enough to blow up the moon when a child goku was giving him problems.
How does Tien pushing back Cell with energy attacks prove that Tien is a planet buster??? Tien's attacks werent even HURTING Cell but annoying him. That's like a kid throwing a bunch of dodge balls at an adult.
 

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You marvel fans are the ones bringing up these rediculous feats talking about what is an isn't a big deal, I'm only stating that these dbz characters are strong enough to pull off rediculous feats too without much effort.
Maybe because those "ridiculous" feats are actually apart of their abilities?

You say hulk is barely herald level and goku is also herald level,putting them in the same power class, while also admitting that goku could easily dismantle the hulk. Goku was strong enough during his fight with freeza, before ever turning super saiyan, to beat the hulk easily.
We don't need to see goku busting planets because we know he's countless times stronger that people who can.
You see still don't seem to get what I am saying and its getting really annoying. Stop talking and actually listen to what I am saying. You boost of DBZ charactes busting planets, I told you that busting planets in comics/Marvel IS NOT A BIG DEAL since less powerful people like Hulk can also do! I never said Hulk is barely herald level I said he is HIGH META level. That means people like Storm, Magneto, Dr Doom, Blue Marvel, Ms Marvel, etc. People who are not herald, but have the potential to destroy a planet.

I know comics and how the can be JUST as inconsistent powerwise as dbz,
That's because there are multiple writers who write the characters. With DBZ there is just one writer and yet there is still inconsistencies like durability. Frieza survives the destruction of a planet and yet an amped Frieza gets cut in half by a sword. Inconsistencies like that. With comics you can expect these since there are multiple writers who may write the character wrong.

So you go from talking about an entity that, realistically, can just swallow the universe, being undefeatable, to talking about human characters coming up with "plans" to stop him. That's that inconsistency I'm talking about, you sound rediculous.
No you sound slow. Reed, Stark and T'Challa don't stop Galactus USING THEIR OWN POWER, they use PLANNING! Big difference. They rely on their brain power. Of course Galactus would stomp those three easily. But the difference between the three and Goku is that Goku and other DBZ characters do not have the intelligence to stop Galactus.

Use that same logic here
Everyone including me every told you why characters like Sue hold back. Plot...
 

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Wait the host? NO THEY CANT. Why do you think god Doom easily killed Phoenix Cyclops.

Keyword, "bloodlusted". Which is what I meant not normal in character Silver Surfer.



I never said Hulk would beat either of them. I agree Goku would easily demolish Hulk. My point is busting planets is nothing new in comics. Hulk is barely herald level and he did it. Beta Ray Bill and his fight with Stardust was busting planets and it was just a side effect of their fight.

And Frieza still ain't beating 90% of the Marvel. He would barely get passed 616-Earth. Give Tony Stark, T'Challa, Dr Strange and Reed Richards especially a year or even a month of prep and Frieza is toast. I mean they have plans for people much worse than Frieza...
Frieza is essentially the fukking galaxy's slaver. Quite a successful one at that. I mean.....we can pretend like thats not a big deal.... lmao
 

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Maybe because those "ridiculous" feats are actually apart of their abilities?


You see still don't seem to get what I am saying and its getting really annoying. Stop talking and actually listen to what I am saying. You boost of DBZ charactes busting planets, I told you that busting planets in comics/Marvel IS NOT A BIG DEAL since less powerful people like Hulk can also do! I never said Hulk is barely herald level I said he is HIGH META level. That means people like Storm, Magneto, Dr Doom, Blue Marvel, Ms Marvel, etc. People who are not herald, but have the potential to destroy a planet.


That's because there are multiple writers who write the characters. With DBZ there is just one writer and yet there is still inconsistencies like durability. Frieza survives the destruction of a planet and yet an amped Frieza gets cut in half by a sword. Inconsistencies like that. With comics you can expect these since there are multiple writers who may write the character wrong.


No you sound slow. Reed, Stark and T'Challa don't stop Galactus USING THEIR OWN POWER, they use PLANNING! Big difference. They rely on their brain power. Of course Galactus would stomp those three easily. But the difference between the three and Goku is that Goku and other DBZ characters do not have the intelligence to stop Galactus.


Everyone including me every told you why characters like Sue hold back. Plot...
Yeah, we're not planning and drawing up a fukking gameplan to fight. We're talking about a brawl. LOL at thinking Reed, Stark, or T'Challa could even being to fight these dudes. Vegeta alone could probably kill all of them in under 10 seconds. T'Challa's power level is like 200, real talk. Vegeta would laugh if he was still wearing one. Reed gets stretched to his limits by dudes who can't teleport in and out of the afterlife at will. Whatchu think Goku gon do? Huh? HUH? LMAO please son. I mean most of these dudes could just be thrown towards the sun and thats that
 

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Yeah, we're not planning and drawing up a fukking gameplan to fight. We're talking about a brawl. LOL at thinking Reed, Stark, or T'Challa could even being to fight these dudes. Vegeta alone could probably kill all of them in under 10 seconds. T'Challa's power level is like 200, real talk. Vegeta would laugh if he was still wearing one. Reed gets stretched to his limits by dudes who can't teleport in and out of the afterlife at will. Whatchu think Goku gon do? Huh? HUH? LMAO please son. I mean most of these dudes could just be thrown towards the sun and thats that

Pick up a Marvel comic and actually read one.
 
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