This really ruined the club scene???

[Playaz Eyez]

I actually think Megan Thee Stallion was bringing it back for awhile, she consistently had some dancey uptempo songs but then the pandemic hit. I notice even today a lot of videos where girls are dancing has a Megan song playing in the background. I can imagine some clubs would've went off to supplement the tiktok dance videos when Savage was big.

I pretty much agree though with the original post.

Trap is actually a pretty slow tempo and additionally many producers today make "hard", head-nodding beats rather than anthems that make you want to move. I think maybe the exceptions are Mustard, MikeWill and LilJuMadeDaBeat. They got that bounce to their music when they want to do it.

So many more non-Black American producers making beats now and getting on the charts. I'd actually say the mass majority of new trap/drill producers are non-Black American. Some beats are straight emo. I also agree about posts regarding the social media factor.

That’s a big thing there as well. The style of the production and hooks simply isn’t conducive for actual dancing, more just head nodding and vibing out. Everybody can do that at home and in their cars lol. I just can’t really see what dancing would go on when Wockesha, Way 2 Sexy, Back In Blood, The Box, and First Class ( ) are popping off.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Eh I kinda disagree on the dress code. shyt was wack tho at times but that didn’t determine how the club night was.

Dress codes turned a lot of people off from the club. If you went to a club and all of a sudden you couldn’t get in you were most likely gonna say fukk that club

 

[BmoreGorilla]

They actually soft on dress codes when it comes to white establishments

Any places that play hiphop
No js
No hats
Collard

No hats was a big one too. This was back when everybody was rocking fitteds and doo rags

 

[Master Teacher]

I was replying to the statement made about todays music being about streets n drugs

Jay-Z rap about streets and songs he also had club records, it's the tone of the record, the vibe of the record that makes it a club record

Money Cash Hoes, was huge in the club, DMX what's name is just him rapping about nothing, huge club smash

Swizz Beats Down Bottom

not every song has to be a Back that ass up song to pop off in the club

Ante Up is about robbing nikkaz it's still a massive club record

DMX biggest record is a club record Party Up, that shyt will forever be played by white people, when black establishments don't even play DMX music

 

[Master Teacher]

Thing is here we have our own club music. I haven’t clubbed in years so I don’t know if it’s still the same way but most of the nite most clubs always dedicated to Baltimore club music. Maybe 1 1/2 hours dedicated to hip hop and R&B. Some clubs had different rooms for different music

But I’ll say that you think back to mid 2000s fashion and clubs started banning it. All of a sudden you couldn’t get in with jerseys, white/black tees, baggy pants and shirts. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that people started wearing more fitted clothes. But the fitted clothes that because popular like Ed Hardy and True Religion generally were more expensive than the baggy stuff like Rocawear. Dudes would be in the club with white and black tees from the gas station. Of course wearing more expensive clothes your less likely to wild out and more likely to play the bar. Then you add the fact that indoor smoking laws came into effect and nite life was never the same

Once again even at the height of Hip Hop you had normal clubs, and you had street clubs, they called them "hip hop" Clubs, but that was just a code word for nikka

in the nikka club, where nikkaz is there smoking weed, no dress code, they playing all the shyt nikkaz wanna hear, people was still dancing and having a good time it was still a club

These new shyts ain't clubs they are lounges, people just go there to hang out and be seen it's an older crowd

dress codes were meant to keep nikkaz out, that's just what it is, that's how it first started, these was places that didn't wanna nikkaz in there
street nikkaz to be specific

 

[calixprynce]

Agreed. Vegas was too fukking packed for me lol. Which can be another set of problems

I went to Drai's for a friend's birthday last year. First time I've ever been in a place so packed, I got lost in the crowd from my pack and just said fukk it :

 

[DaHNIC82]

Cell phones created a stand off/anti social atmosphere and it destroyed the nightscene .. A bytch can't even stay off her phone for 2 minutes even if you paid her

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Once again even at the height of Hip Hop you had normal clubs, and you had street clubs, they called them "hip hop" Clubs, but that was just a code word for nikka

in the nikka club, where nikkaz is there smoking weed, no dress code, they playing all the shyt nikkaz wanna hear, people was still dancing and having a good time it was still a club

These new shyts ain't clubs they are lounges, people just go there to hang out and be seen it's an older crowd

dress codes were meant to keep nikkaz out, that's just what it is, that's how it first started, these was places that didn't wanna nikkaz in there
street nikkaz to be specific

I see what you saying. But places that catered to nikkas all of a sudden got dress codes after years of allowing people to wear what they wanted and these places didn’t last too much longer

 

[maxamusa]

VIP and Bottle service + Racism ruined the club scene

/THREAD

 

[IIVI]

This isn’t true at all. Why would you say something like this?

I mean, you can see it yourself: go to the rap caviar portion of Spotify right now and look at the producer credits.

Make sure you look up everybody, check the instagrams for the names, etc. and see what they look like - I mean, that's a lot more than the past and that number is only growing.

Not to mention your loopmakers like Cubeatz and all the people in the Kenny Beats discords (one of the biggest non video game discords on twitch I think) and twitch streams.
Remember this?


One of that song's producers: RicoRunDat (click to see more credits)
Which is another thing: a ton of UK drill ain't getting done primarily by anybody here.

Biggest drill tutorial channel on youtube is this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/c/JayCactusTV

If ya'll out there making beats the last two years I'm sure you're seeing it too, it really looks like this nowadays:


I think half of Pierre Bourne and TM88's new project had loops from that synthetic guy from that video.

This is coming from a big Nick Mira fan, but it is what it is.

Go to this link right here and look at what folks look like:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+make+type+beats

Many of those cats like KBeazy have multiple major placements as well.


May not be the "mass majority" but it really is a large part of today's trap/drill scene.

 

[King Sun]

I think its more to do with the opioids newer rappers are talking vs the Club.

 

[humminbird]

I mean if the clubs are still making the same if not more money does it matter?
they don't care if you're dancing as long as you're paying for that overpriced drink. in fact because you're not dancing you'll drink more

 

[010101]

too fly for the sweaty circus clown antics

& i come from a caribbean/african family a real dancing ass culture

you have to know yourself

parties really always just been about giving women an opportunity to choose up

come through let them put in their application & catch a quick dub

too smooth for the extras ha

*

 

[FromStLouis]

Atlanta, at the behest of UGA, created crunk music and introduced mosh pits to black clubs, solely with the intent of recruiting fullbacks and linebackers to their football program.

They threw these 5-star recruits into clubs to shove and push folks and the immediate offshoot was "Only for the Grown and Sexy".

I was in Atlanta when "Never Scared" first dropped. You'd think it was a war flick with the amount of injuries sustained.
Little naive petite 110-pound girls that only came out for "Gimme The Light" and got caught out there.

That killed the club scene loooong before bottle service. Pastor Troy records.

^HIM.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

30 years ago....there was no social media, no smartphones, no 'clout', no bottle service, just beats....



Beats, these days, don't inspire rockin' the floor.

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