This Woodstock 99 doc on HBO is wild

[jelanitsunami]

Alternative rock was in a dark place at that point

Kurt Cobain committed suicide

Pearl Jam was battling ticket master

Other alt bands that had been popular in the early/mid 90s like Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Temple Pilots and Alice In Chains were either on hiatus or declined in popularity

Mix that with the popularization of hip hop and a generation of angry white boys and you get nu metal

 

[Asicz]

Woodstock woulda been a Wrap if MMLP Em was Up there

mmlp was too early for Woodstock 99. Possible he would have rocked it or got booed off because Eminem was mr. comedy guy on the first single and album compared to MMLP

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

I pack a chainsaw... I skin your ass raw

That shyt got the crowd so hype

Chick I was watching it with said was this proto Crunk music

A second later I hit the

 

[Asicz]

I'm not sure Woodstock was as big a moment as yall are making it in the thread.

in 1999 Woodstock 99 was a relative non factor.

I'd almost say yall are borderline engaging in revionist history making it bigger than what it was.

in the late 90s the idea of having a Woodstock was not eagerly sought.

and the subsequent chaos and failure and limited background reports of sex assault made it a non factor and a stain on MTV and they did away with it almost like it dont happen there after


Also the DMX performance HAD ZERO RELAVANCE IN 1999. NOBODY SAW IT ON TV AND HE GOT NO REP FROM IT.
should he have? Yes. But it wasn't really a thing.

and also it wasn't legible, the widespread idea of a Rapper performing for a white rock festival had only just occurred with Wu Tang a yeer or two ealier with Wu Tang Forever.
20 years later today it common.

We look back with the footage on stage of the DMX Woodstock performance being amazing ONLY BECUASE IT SURFACED ON YOUTUBE.

Sorry but I just needed to bring this back to reality it was getting a little out of hand

 

[Asicz]

I think they're exaggerating how it resonates with today's stuff, but Woodstock '99 was a huge deal. Without Woodstock '99 and all the fukk ups they had, there's no Coachella.


Most of the acts there flamed out within 5 years of that show and if they weren't already legends, only a handful became that.

Nah he is right, it wasn't really a big deal in 1999.

 

[Asicz]

That shyt got the crowd so hype

Chick I was watching it with said was this proto Crunk music

A second later I hit the

chick is

 

[Ku$h Parker]

I never liked X doin my nikkas for them cacs like that…. I know he was just doin his song, and his performance was incredible….but that moment was cringe as fukk

X was holding The Mic out for the Response tho,THAT was

 

[Ku$h Parker]

mmlp was too early for Woodstock 99. Possible he would have rocked it or got booed off because Eminem was mr. comedy guy on the first single and album compared to MMLP

Oh no doubt,but MMLP/Chronic 2001 Em was fukkin unstoppable at that point so he wouldve really Popped the Crowd at Woodstock if anything
Probably even more than Bizkit

 

[tremonthustler1]

Im not sure Woodstock was as big a moment as talk are making it in the thread.

in 1999 Woodstock 99 was relative non factor.

is almost say yall are borderline engaging in revionist history making it bigger than what it was.

in 1999 the idea of having a Woodstock was not eagerly sought.

and the subsequent chaos and failure and limited background reports of sex assault made it a non factor and a stain on MTV and they did away with it almost like it dont happen there after


Also the DMV performance HAD ZERO RELAVANCE IN 1999. NOBODY SAW IT ON TV AND HE GOT NO REP FROM IT.
should he have tea. but it wasn't really a thing.

and also itnwasnt barely legible, the widespread idea of a Rapper performing for a white rock festival had only just occurred with Wu Tang a yeer or two ealier with Wu Tang Forever.

We look back with the footage on stage of the DMX Woodstock performance being amazing ONLY BECUASE IT SURFACED ON YOUTUBE.

Sorry but I just needed to bring this back to reality it was getting a little out of hand

Woodstock '99 was a big deal though (MTV and the lineup they had had a lot to do with it). A lot of shyt had started to take the place of Woodstock as far as festivals were concerned but that was the case in '94 as well and it was still a big deal. The significance of Woodstock was lost on that generation because they didn't care. The acts who performed who at least had that Woodstock vibe were the snoozefests of the weekend. Part of why there was even enough energy to be amped about night 3 came as a result of Sunday's lineup being so garbage that people slept in. One dude on Podcast '99 admitted that he would sleep in the little movie theater hangar where they showed independent films because that was the one shaded quiet spot in the entire field. That was the biggest festival that was covered. Lollapalooza or Reading or whatever else wasn't on PPV. It took Coachella a couple of years to fine tune how to do festivals, but if Woodstock '99 goes off without much of a hitch, woulda had Woodstock '04 or something every 5 years to where Coachella's impact isn't as big. Their festival became the standard because it wasn't built off false pretenses. Lang was chasing a high and he's still chasing it.

The DMX praise is mostly hindsight. He got more love from the Hard Knock Life and Survival of the Illest tours. Hip-hop for as big as it was, wasn't a big deal at Woodstock '99. At the time, rappers were tryna conquer arenas. The only festivals rappers would do would be like Lollapalooza. The biggest beneficiary in terms of their profile being raised as a result of the concert was Kid Rock. Even artists like Korn were never bigger than they were that day. The only agreement anyone in terms of hip-hop was that Wyclef embarrassed himself that day with his performance.

 

[Asicz]

what were these white folks angry about!?

 

[itsyoung!!]

I'm not sure Woodstock was as big a moment as yall are making it in the thread.

in 1999 Woodstock 99 was a relative non factor.

I'd almost say yall are borderline engaging in revionist history making it bigger than what it was.

in the late 90s the idea of having a Woodstock was not eagerly sought.

and the subsequent chaos and failure and limited background reports of sex assault made it a non factor and a stain on MTV and they did away with it almost like it dont happen there after


Also the DMV performance HAD ZERO RELAVANCE IN 1999. NOBODY SAW IT ON TV AND HE GOT NO REP FROM IT.
should he have? Yes. But it wasn't really a thing.

and also it wasntlegible, the widespread idea of a Rapper performing for a white rock festival had only just occurred with Wu Tang a yeer or two ealier with Wu Tang Forever.
20 years later today it common.

We look back with the footage on stage of the DMX Woodstock performance being amazing ONLY BECUASE IT SURFACED ON YOUTUBE.

Sorry but I just needed to bring this back to reality it was getting a little out of hand

I saw DMX performance live on MTV... literally everything you posted in this post is the complete opposite of reality

 

[tremonthustler1]

what were these white folks angry about!?

In terms of that weekend in general?

The setting was on an air force base so there was no shade anywhere.

The tickets were expensive as hell at the time.

The concessions were straight up robbing people. $4 waters, $10 pizzas and depending on where you went they'd charge $7 for the water, more than the beer. On top of that, they wouldn't let you bring in outside food or water and if you left the grounds, that city sold out of everything they had at every store.

The stages were a couple miles apart so you might have to walk all that distance in damn near 100 degree weather.

Showering? Good luck. Toilets? Overflowing

On a bigger scale, the doc goes into that.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Woodstock 99 wasn't a big deal in 99...only afterwards due to the violence of it all.

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

Years ago there was a documentary on metal music on VH1 Classic and Jonathan Davis basically said Fred Durst incited a riot. Telling people to break stuff, surf on plywood, and let out all your frustrations. You add to that the entire thing was organized piss poorly and you got the shyt show that was Woodstock 99. Fred Durst is lucky he got away with that.

The problem with the event was that the organizers were looking at it as a cash grab. Like y'all said, everything was overpriced. Long lines everywhere, some people were going out of town just to get food, all while missing the shows.

I'm old enough to have lived through it, and I remember being at home that summer and I couldn't find it anywhere on TV outside of MTV showing a clip here and there. The whole thing was on PPV. This was supposed to be the 90s generation's going out party and it ended up being a weekend of slow burning built up anger.

Years later I heard about the rapes in the crowd, shyt, there's footage of women being grabbed during performances and most were not smart by taking off their shirts. I remember someone from the Red Hot Chili Peppers telling the crowd to leave the women alone. The whole thing just slowly went away years later but there should have been a bigger fallout, maybe the organizers were held accountable but I don't know, I'm just going off memory.

The Fyre Festival was paradise compared to Woodstock 99.

Clip:

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

I pack a chainsaw... I skin your ass raw

even snoop and dre were on this

they used to play this heavy.....but i was heavy on X that time lol