Thug Motivation 101 is a CLASSIC album

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eh, I don't really listen to jeezy, but I cannot deny nikkas was play the shyt of out this album when it came out.


But will say I still listen to my hood/soul survivor/air forces to this day.
 

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SMFH. No, YOU gotta be trolling. I'm done with this argument.



Dude...I'm dead serious. I've been making this same statement since 2005. Its cool..No hard feelings. All I asked was for someone to breakdown what was so special about an album with mediocre lyrics and eh beats. I just wanted someone to show just me something that I might have missed......Something that went over my head.....But there is nothing. I have to chalk it all up to being one of those moments in the Twilight Zone.




and Dont call it trolling....call it, me helping to push your thread cuz im bored.
 

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Bottom line. when the album dropped, to me, it sounded like somthing from late 90's No Limit. I just dont see how something that sounded like Late 90's No Limit can be so highly acknowledged in 2005. Thats all im saying.


Like I said previously....Th beats and lyrics weren't anything special so it had to be his street affiliation that gave him his hype. And thats more understanable. If The Harlem drug dealer Rick Porter or Azie had signed to Def Jam and dropped a Hip Hop album with mediocre lyrics, it would be understanable as to why they would get love and support. The love and support is coming more from the street affiliation and not necceessarily the lyrics and beats. This is the conclusion that I assume contributed to the hype behind his debut. And the proof is in the reality that had that same album been done by a regular studio gangster.....it wouldnt have had the same outcome. We'd be looking at Jeezy the way we look at Plies.

Dog, I have damn near every release from No limit. All the classic no limit albums I own. Please provide 1 No limit song from back in the day that sounded like Trap or die or "air forces". :beli:

Of course Jeezys street afilliation with the streets played a part in TM 101s sucess. But so did NWAs following and allure, so did 50, Ross with POrt of Miami, and ChiefKeef OTF/GBE movement. The street cosign has always been a part of hip hop artists success and support. That's a no brainer.

Ultimatley why the album was so appealing, successful and groundbreaking is because we had not heard the"street story" told quite like Jeezy did. The production and lyrics were brand new. Nobody was doin adlibs like Jeezy nd we had never heard anything that sounded like Shawty Reds sound before
 

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I'm sorry, say what you will about the album, but the lyrics were definitely not the highlight of the album. I'm not saying Jeezy was garbage, but TM101 probably ranks dead last lyrically in Jeezy's catalog of albums. The appeal of TM101 were Jeezy's ad libs his overall charisma, and the production.

As for the album, it's an album full of bangers. It has it's place in time because it was an album that was a must-have in 2005. The hype was crazy. As for it being classic, it really doesn't matter all that much to me because any and every album that defined a time period in someone's life will be labeled as such. It's a waste of time even disputing. I personally don't consider it classic and don't see the need why it needs to be as it doesn't validate or negate what the album is.
 

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Dog, I have damn near every release from No limit. All the classic no limit albums I own. Please provide 1 No limit song from back in the day that sounded like Trap or die or "air forces". :beli:

Of course Jeezys street afilliation with the streets played a part in TM 101s sucess. But so did NWAs following and allure, so did 50, Ross with POrt of Miami, and ChiefKeef OTF/GBE movement. The street cosign has always been a part of hip hop artists success and support. That's a no brainer.

Ultimatley why the album was so appealing, successful and groundbreaking is because we had not heard the"street story" told quite like Jeezy did. The production and lyrics were brand new. Nobody was doin adlibs like Jeezy nd we had never heard anything that sounded like Shawty Reds sound before

What was groundbreaking about this album? This album introduced nothing new to the game. It's like saying Ghetto D and Ice Cream Man were groundbreaking. Lyrically, there was nothing new and musically it was the same type of production that a lot of southern artists were already spittin' over (i.e. Gucci Mane).
 

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What was groundbreaking about this album? This album introduced nothing new to the game. It's like saying Ghetto D and Ice Cream Man were groundbreaking. Lyrically, there was nothing new and musically it was the same type of production that a lot of southern artists were already spittin' over (i.e. Gucci Mane).

Who was usin Shatwy Red type production before Jeezy :beli: Nobody

Who sounded like Jeezy before Jeezy?

Who was doin adlibs like Jeezy, before Jeezy?


Question, why was TM101 so successful? Why do people still love this album so much? Why were the streets goin so crazy when this dropped? Why?
 

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Dog, I have damn near every release from No limit. All the classic no limit albums I own. Please provide 1 No limit song from back in the day that sounded like Trap or die or "air forces". :beli:

Of course Jeezys street afilliation with the streets played a part in TM 101s sucess. But so did NWAs following and allure, so did 50, Ross with POrt of Miami, and ChiefKeef OTF/GBE movement. The street cosign has always been a part of hip hop artists success and support. That's a no brainer.

Ultimatley why the album was so appealing, successful and groundbreaking is because we had not heard the"street story" told quite like Jeezy did.
The production and lyrics were brand new. Nobody was doin adlibs like Jeezy nd we had never heard anything that sounded like Shawty Reds sound before



OK.....Now we're getting somewhere.




This "street story" that u are refering to that was told so differently....what did I miss? Point it out cuz it must have went over my head. Dudes "started from the bottom" story sounded like everyone elses but u say otherwise.....



now.....I must point out that when 101 came out...Lil Jon was the king of Ad libs. Jeezy was not touching Lil Jon in that area.





and those 808 drums might have been new to u.....But they were a signature sound in 80's NY Hip Hop(Im assuming u are refering to the drums because the songs u posted "air force ones" and Trap or die" sound like the same beat and u cant scream "innovative" when one song sounds exctly like another song u did).......Also......Let me specify.......I meant to say "Lyrically....it sounded like Late 90's No Limit"
 

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its debatable, but its def a down south classic......i still :ohlawd: when ever i hear go crazy
 

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classic album... how yall gonna go 4 pages deep without mentioning jeezy's best song tho :what:

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:blessed: so many quotables
 

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Who was usin Shatwy Red type production before Jeezy :beli: Nobody

Who sounded like Jeezy before Jeezy?

Who was doin adlibs like Jeezy, before Jeezy?


Question, why was TM101 so successful? Why do people still love this album so much? Why were the streets goin so crazy when this dropped? Why?

Drumma Boy and Zaytoven were also using that sound. Drumma Boy was actually using that sound back in '03.

LOL @ who sounded like Jeezy before Jeezy. Most artists come in the game with their own sound, it doesn't make it groundbreaking.

The success, love, and the streets =/= groundbreaking.
 

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Drumma Boy and Zaytoven were also using that sound. Drumma Boy was actually using that sound back in '03.

LOL @ who sounded like Jeezy before Jeezy. Most artists come in the game with their own sound, it doesn't make it groundbreaking.

The success, love, and the streets =/= groundbreaking.

we just have diffent opinions :manny: many people consider TM101 a groundbreaking classic. obviously u dont. and thats cool
 

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nikkaz denying this album is a classic and the impact? :wtf:

This site never ceases to amaze me.


I fully acknowledge the impact. I remember Vibe magazine said it was the most important album of the decade. Right then and there I knew someone had sex with someone to have that statement appear in Vibe magazine. I remember every bootlegger in NY selling a Snowman t shirt and the controversy behind kids wearing those T' to school.


When So Icey dropped.....NY Djs were saying it was the hardest track in ATL......This was before Laffy Taffy. I remember the cars driving by blasting 101 tracks......NY heads who usually like lyrical sh*t were giving it up to Jeezy.......The impact is undeniable.



My gripe is that the album was treated like if it was somthing new , innovative and groundbreaking when it dropped yet it was the same ol same ol street sh*t we already heard from past rappers.
 
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