Tidal Keeps Sinking: Beyoncé And Rihanna Can’t Save ‘Biggest Disaster In Music History’ Read mor

[Malta]

I agree with what you're saying 100% but, Tidals only 20$ for the hifi version which is for audiophiles with nice headphones/speakers. So its really just the same as Spotify it's like opening a burger king across the street from McDonalds for market share but also having a high end menu. I hate having to defend Jay because of the blatant racism.. shyt is skressful.

You probably don't even have the audio equipment to take advantage of the $20 a month service, shyt is comedy to me people are using it with fukking earbuds and beats by dre, with no amp or receiver

 

[philmonroe]

Yall black people need to wake up and realize this shyt bigger than Jay dumb fukkas

They can't they too busy crabbing the fukk up. Hating like a mofo and its sad because I never hear dudes coming like this at a white business unless they say something about bad about blacks.

 

[Insensitive]

Steve Jobs has caught slander plenty of times.
The Social Network made Mark Zuckerberg look like a dikk.
The movie antitrust was based on Bill Gates ( didn't portray him in a positive light )
There's 2 other movies that show Bill Gates is a snake and steals ideas.

slashdot.org use to shyt on Bill Gates/Microsoft all the time and so did other tech websites.

You use to see stuff like this all the time back in the 90's

They didn't call Microsoft "M$" for nothing.

I could go on and on.

Breh.
In 2015 are people going out of their way to say "I'm not buying an Xbox one because Bill Gates is already rich" ?
In 2015 are people going out of their way to say "I'm not buyin an Iphone because the ceo of Apple is already rich" ?


You're missing the point here, it isn't just about people slandering Jay-Z.
It's about unfounded attacks, you didn't touch anything else in my post which directly addressed
those things.Tidal does great shyt from what we're hearing and what they're already delivering.

They weren't lying about their concepts, two streaming concerts thus far, exclusive videos and the plan to roll out more.

People aren't judging Tidal as a service, they're looking at it as the trojan horse for greedy artists, it's an inaccurate description and it muddles the conversation.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

@3Rivers WE'VE GOT JAY-Z SMILEY POTENTIAL HERE, BROTHER!

 

[Marciano]

Koons & Kacs can't stand a successful & confident black man....just pray & pray on his downfall.

 

[KOohbt]

You probably don't even have the audio equipment to take advantage of the $20 a month service, shyt is comedy to me people are using it with fukking earbuds and beats by dre, with no amp or receiver

I do have studio headphones and monitors. That's why I got the free trial to test it out. I wanted to see if it was legit streaming flac and it was and Imma cancel after this month cause it's not worth $20. Like I said its for audiophiles. If your gonna use tidal use the cheaper option its the same as Spotify.

 

[KOohbt]

Breh.
In 2015 are people going out of their way to say "I'm not buying an Xbox one because Bill Gates is already rich" ?
In 2015 are people going out of their way to say "I'm not buyin an Iphone because the ceo of Apple is already rich" ?


You're missing the point here, it isn't just about people slandering Jay-Z.
It's about unfounded attacks, you didn't touch anything else in my post which directly addressed
those things.Tidal does great shyt from what we're hearing and what they're already delivering. They weren't lying about their concepts, two streaming concerts thus far, exclusive videos and the plan to roll out more.

People aren't judging Tidal as a service, they're looking at it as the trojan horse for greedy artists, it's inaccurate description and it muddles the conversation.

Truth right there.

It's an emotional argument from ignorance. But for 3 different reasons. 1. People don't wanna see a black man win 2. People are turned off by jay z talking about murdered black men. And that goofy shyt. 3. Slandering the competition.

People aren't bringing FACTS to prove their points. Tidal streams music for $9.99 after that it's all preference in the layout and catalog. My beef with it is that jay z is trying to guilt black folks into buying it because Freddie Gray was murdered. Which I think is disgusting way to try and advertise.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

I kinda feel like some of this is a hit job/people hating after all this. Not saying Tidal is great but I don't see why it's any worse than the other options out there such as Google Music.

People will pay for streaming music. If they didn't you wouldn't see the most profitable company on planet earth (Apple) trying hard to get into the game. That part just doesn't make sense on the second read and why it feels a little bit off.

Don't assume Google and Apple would be above greasing the right people to try to edge out competition. Apple could have easily have made a deal to give this publication/author access to a big product launch like the Iphone 6S coming in Sept/Oct.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

You left out the part where Black money has to circulate back in the Black community. How the fukk does Black entrepreneurship or Black support of businesses like Tidal help the Black community when none of that money is actually... You know... Going back into the Black community? Just because Black people own something doesn't mean the resources aren't going back into the pockets of cacs. What was the last Black owned ANYTHING (not named 'Tidal') shouted out by Jay-Z and Beyonce? Pretty sure they only push cac products in their songs and videos, they only wear clothing and shoes created by cacs, they hire cacs to work for them, they live in a cac neighborhood... Is any of that not harmful to the Black community? You want us to support Tidal because it's *good* for the Black community? How about we discuss how the money used to buy Tidal could have opened FIVE HUNDRED AND SIXTY Black owned grocery stores in the U.S. ($56 million divided by the average $100,000 startup costs for a grocery store.) Hell, they could probably have BOUGHT a media outlet with some of that money and wrote their OWN articles about Tidal on their BLACK OWNED MEDIA SERVICE. What was even the point of this streaming venture?! How does this help the Black community at ALL, if that's going to be your excuse?

Y'all are just pretending to be pro-Black at this point because you don't want your fav to fail at something.

This may be dumbest post in here. Since when does every black owned business have to be a charity? Folks are just inventing new ways to slander and hate on this man at this point. First it cost more than 100k to run and sustain a grocery store let alone a chain of them plus Jay-z is a musician so this business is in line with his field of work. Tidal is a black owned streaming service. There are only a handful of streaming services out there. If you want a grocery store or black media service then put your own money up and start one. Why you worried about what lane Jay is investing his money in.

Do you have this criticism for every black businessman?.. Cause it would apply to all of them. Would you not support your barber if he uses the 20 dollars your paying him to buy Jordans from nike? What black business doesn't directly or indirectly support a white owned business in this country? they all do. It's unavoidable. Even if you had a black owned grocery store who do you think would be making 90% of the products sold in it? Not black people. blacks dont own that much yet but its gotta start somewhere. Jay is doing his part in the area he has the most experience and influence. You don't have use or like the service but keep the criticism to the actual service. All this other nonsense yall talking is ridiculous. You are doing the racist cacs work for them.

 

[Versa]

You left out the part where Black money has to circulate back in the Black community. How the fukk does Black entrepreneurship or Black support of businesses like Tidal help the Black community when none of that money is actually... You know... Going back into the Black community?

I ain't replying to that whole wall of text, but this caught my attention. Didn't Jay make financial contributions to the movement in Ferguson and Baltimore?

Anyways, I don't know what Jay does with his money, and like I said, I don't like him. However, I'm not gonna root for a black man's business failing - especially not a black man with a black wife and a black child. At the very least even if his ass don't plant seeds into our communities(and he absolutely should), he is still building black wealth for his family. I'm not gonna hate on that. I'm not gonna cheer for that to fail, because if it isn't him it's gonna be another cac keeping it all to himself anyway.

 

[Data-Hawk]

People aren't judging Tidal as a service, they're looking at it as the trojan horse for greedy artists.
It's inaccurate and muddles the conversation.

Blame them for bad advertising. In 2015 , people aren't paying attention to the CEO's like that because they know how to get out of the way of their product. and you are crazy if you think any of those CEO's wouldn't get the same treatment if they started playing the underdog every time they tried to launch a new product.


and you must of forgot when Microsoft received ton of backlash when they introduced the Xbox one

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/4406170/xbox-one-internet-trade-policy

"After a month of vague corporate comments from Microsoft executives, we now know the Xbox One's game licensing policy was written from the ground up for companies. It's aggressively anti-consumer and anti-middle class, and it outright ignores underprivileged gamers. It's gross, despicable, greedy, pathetic, cowardly and out of touch with a growing global resentment for corporations."


And to address your first point, None of those company CEO's have advertising that makes you feel like you are donating or some freedom fighter. Nobody feels like they are taking a "stand" when buying a Xbox. Go back and watch the commercial and come back and tell me what you took away from it.

I honestly want to hear your opinion on this

 

[No1]

I feel some of this analysis. Jay is a renowned bragger. He def would have been writing raps about all this success and throwing it in peoples faces if it was doing well..

Now he's pulling out all the stops....concerts, tickets to made in america concert, beyonce and nicki minaj video, rhianna single and having his head P.R person "leak" that he has contributed to bailing out some protestors, and a freestyle aimed at people seeing him as a "black rebel" going against the system and you should support whatever product he puts out becuz he black like you.

Can't say he isn't trying and I can't say that I give a fukk. I don't need the service. Come up with a phone that does what the iphone does and load it with exclusive albums and concerts and you have an argument. It all boils down to product. fukk outta here with this whoa is me shyt fam. He the same dude thats gonna be shytting on you broke nikkas the next album whether you support him or not.

Do you know how ridiculous you sound for ridiculing a dude for actually making his service worth owning? I mean Jay literally told you about the concert shyt like two days after Tidal launched. This reminds of that what Stereo Williams said, "Because Jay Z is a business man and a rapper, there will always be a group of people that skeptical of his every move," This is the first time in history nikkas said, "fukk him, look at him trying to make his service worth owning." The rest of your post just sounds stupid, "come up with a phone that does what an iphone does and then load it with exclusive shyt." So you would be good with him doing exactly what he was doing if he also created another i phone? nikka what? Everyone who dapped your post after that should ask someone to neg them

 

[3Rivers]

@3Rivers WE'VE GOT JAY-Z SMILEY POTENTIAL HERE, BROTHER!

 

[No1]

Blame them for bad advertising. In 2015 , people aren't paying attention to the CEO's like that because they know how to get out of the way of their product. and you are crazy if you think any of those CEO's wouldn't get the same treatment if they started playing the underdog every time they tried to launch a new product.


and you must of forgot when Microsoft received ton of backlash when they introduced the Xbox one

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/4406170/xbox-one-internet-trade-policy

"After a month of vague corporate comments from Microsoft executives, we now know the Xbox One's game licensing policy was written from the ground up for companies. It's aggressively anti-consumer and anti-middle class, and it outright ignores underprivileged gamers. It's gross, despicable, greedy, pathetic, cowardly and out of touch with a growing global resentment for corporations."

Bro, I addressed everything in your post already. Everyone has negative articles. I have never seen such a steady stream based on one event. I don't think you guys understand what I'm saying when I say this shyt is ubiquitous. Verge, TechCrunch, Gawker, Slate, The Atlantic, every fukking thing that I read. That's why I was like damn...aight I get it. It is especially remarkable because most people do not know what Tidal is, and Spotify's new thing to add is, you guessed it, videos like Tidal

 

[Data-Hawk]

Bro, I addressed everything in your post already. Everyone has negative articles. I have never seen such a steady stream based on one event. I don't think you guys understand what I'm saying when I say this shyt is ubiquitous. Verge, TechCrunch, Gawker, Slate, The Atlantic, every fukking thing that I read. That's why I was like damn...aight I get it. It is especially remarkable because most people do not know what Tidal is, and Spotify's new thing to add is, you guessed it, videos like Tidal

As someone has already stated, I wouldn't be surprised if those sites were given money. Even then



Is just that bad. It really is a "focus" on us and not the service.

vs



But anyway I'm done with this topic. I see what you are saying though.lol